Is It Possible to Forego My Receiver?

Early B.
Early B. Posts: 7,900
edited December 2006 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
I realize this is a strange question, but I'm curious --

I own an Oppo 970 DVD player. (Fantastic player, by the way.) I have a very simple setup -- 5.1 home theater system with a powered sub, a 5-channel amp, and a receiver that is functioning as a processor and for volume control. I have the Oppo HDMI cable hooked up directly to the TV, so I do not use my HT system for video processing or to watch TV.

Is it possible to plug the 5-channel amp and sub directly to the Oppo via its 5.1 channel audio outputs, use the Oppo's audio processing and volume control capabilities, and dispense with my receiver altogether?
HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

"God grooves with tubes."
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited November 2006
    I don't see why not. The line level outs on the oppo has a sub/lfe channel, right? Only one way to find out...
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited November 2006
    OK, I'll try it this week as soon as my speakers arrive.

    Another related question -- since there is audio processing capability in the DVD player and the receiver, is the signal being processed twice?
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited November 2006
    Your player only processes the stuff going out the analog outputs. The digital outputs are processed by the AVR. I use whichever sounds best to my ears for movies, but multichannel SACD/DVD-A has to go out the analogs.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited November 2006
    Dennis Gardner wrote:
    Your player only processes the stuff going out the analog outputs. The digital outputs are processed by the AVR. I use whichever sounds best to my ears for movies, but multichannel SACD/DVD-A has to go out the analogs.

    OK, I gotcha. Thanks.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

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  • millerman 3732
    millerman 3732 Posts: 1,488
    edited November 2006
    Are you sure that the Oppo's volume control works that way, I know you can program the remote to operate other devices but I've never seen player that could control the volume other equipment with out some kind of device code?
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited November 2006
    millerman 3732 wrote:
    Are you sure that the Oppo's volume control works that way, I know you can program the remote to operate other devices but I've never seen player that could control the volume other equipment with out some kind of device code?

    Not sure. The big question is whether or not the DVD player has the ability to control the volume of an amp.

    The manual recommends using the receiver or TV to control the volume, then it says the remote can be used as an alternative means of volume control.

    I'll let you know.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,756
    edited November 2006
    The volume controls on players top levels are loud...

    Infact, if your player dosnt have a volume control to turn it down, there isnt really a way to "turn it up" - its startling at how loud it is...
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited November 2006
    The Oppo has fixed and variable outputs... so yes, the volume can be controlled by the unit.

    For what it's worth, the Oppo also has bass management settings (I forget in what increments), so setting your speakers to small will also be an option.

    Now that I think of it, it's possible that only the volume of the two fronts can be controlled with the player...
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited November 2006
    I see no reason why not if the DVD player has volume controls. I think Sid is right about the volume being pretty loud from the get-go.
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited November 2006
    Thinking out loud, but is there any provision in the oppo to caibrate?
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited November 2006
    amulford wrote:
    Thinking out loud, but is there any provision in the oppo to caibrate?

    By calibrate, if you mean you can change the levels for each channel, then the answer is "yes."
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited November 2006
    Correction on the fixed and variable outputs:o

    That would be a big "negatory". I was confusing 'em with the mixed and front right/left outputs.
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited November 2006
    You should be in good shape.

    Have you done it yet?
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  • starkiller
    starkiller Posts: 2,723
    edited November 2006
    i have also just purchased the oppo player,but not before exchanging a bazillion emails with the techs who informed me that the oppo will take care of all processing and will also control the volume etc...of the system i will be hooking up here shortly..which is a yamaha amp for the woofer portion of a set of ar-9's. a kenwood amp for the mid/high range of the ar-9, a yamaha amp for the polk center and a sansui amp for the polk 10b rears...it will also take care of any of the discrepency of wattage btwn the amps, err, or so they say :)
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited November 2006
    I decided not to do it.

    Star -- Let us know how this works.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • starkiller
    starkiller Posts: 2,723
    edited December 2006
    well, got the oppo, wired everything up, and..................superb!! having the oppo control four amps, rear surrounds/center and fronts which are bi-amped! have to tweak the level control still some and things like that but otherwise it surely blows my old denon system away...been playing ice age to start off with and hearing things like wind sounds and cracking ice etc. that i never heard before, what a blast :D

    the oppo comes highly recommended from tons of folks, and now by me ....
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited December 2006
    Wonderful!!

    Glad to hear it's working out for you. I knew it would.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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