Shanling Tube Question

Early B.
Early B. Posts: 7,900
edited October 2006 in 2 Channel Audio
My friend purchased a pair of Shanling SP-80 monoblocks that accept a 6SN7 and 6SL7 tube in each monoblock. The amps did not come with a manual. Since both of these tubes appear visually identical and have the same pin configuration, we are trying to figure out which slot the tubes go in.

He has contacted several guys who mod these amps, including Chris Hall at Parts Connexion, but they didn't know the answer. He is hesitant to use the amps until he determines this. He is considering switching the tubes out on each socket and conducting listening tests. Whichever configuration sounds better will be the one he uses. Will this idea work? Will he harm the amp and/or the tubes by placing them in the wrong socket?

Thanks.
HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited October 2006
    Some tubes have different wiring schemes and damage themselves or equipment if interchanged. I'll bet a google search on pin outs for each one would go a long way. Normally I would look but right now I have some stuff to get done.

    Edit: here is 6sn7 http://www.iol.ie/~waltonaudio/mk1pinoutmk1.html
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,411
    edited October 2006
    reading the 6 Moons review, this might be a hint

    "Those are placed adjacent to the (right) 6SL7 input tube on each."

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  • BlueMDPicker
    BlueMDPicker Posts: 7,569
    edited October 2006
    Not interchangable. If you can't find any tube data sheets and diagnose the circuit, call Music Hall direct and ask them.
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited October 2006
    http://tdsl.duncanamps.com/show.php?des=6SL7

    http://tdsl.duncanamps.com/show.php?des=6SN7

    There you go, print out both and compare. Also, look over any specs they show.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited October 2006
    Got it. Thanks, fellas.

    BTW -- these are the most incredible looking amps I've ever seen. Truly impressive.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • Wardsweb
    Wardsweb Posts: 935
    edited October 2006
    I run a pair of SP-80 in my vinyl rig. When standing in front of an amp and facing it. The left tube is a 6N8P (6SN7) and the right tube is a 6N9P (6SL7).

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