15 or 9

mailman23
mailman23 Posts: 93
edited November 2006 in Speakers
I am nearing completion of my new home.I was planning on lsi 15's the whole time, but the houses are very close in the neighborhood.I'm wondering, if having the 15's and not being able to really crank them will be a waste?Should I consider the 9's instead?
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited October 2006
    Your neighbors will love the sound from the 15's!! Mine sure love the SVS's.

    Mike
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited October 2006
    Myself, I'd get the 9's over the 15s. That's just me and for me that's saying something because I tend to lean towards floorstanders, but the 9s hit pretty deep and are easier to place without the side firing woofer. If the 9s don't have enough bass for ya, just get a decent sealed sub to fill in the lowest notes.
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  • mailman23
    mailman23 Posts: 93
    edited October 2006
    so you think a sealed sub box vs svs cylinder?
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited October 2006
    This debate is very subjective on personal taste. Your best bet is to audition both.

    Mike
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  • mailman23
    mailman23 Posts: 93
    edited October 2006
    also room is 15x 25, will the 9's fill the room?
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited October 2006
    mailman23 wrote:
    so you think a sealed sub box vs svs cylinder?

    For mostly music or HT?

    For music, I'd get sealed. For mostly movies I'd get the SVS cylinder. Some feel the SVS ported cylinders do a wonerful job with both. Some like the musicality better with a sealed sub, they just don't hit the low octaves like the ported SVS that is suited more for HT.

    Mike
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  • mailman23
    mailman23 Posts: 93
    edited October 2006
    I was gonna get the 20 39 pc plus cylinder.Also since iI have you attention, any a/v receiver you recomend.I was either thinking yamaha or denon, maybe onkyo.And I am pretty sure I will get a 1075 rotel
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  • mailman23
    mailman23 Posts: 93
    edited October 2006
    I listen to rock, rap and alot of music off of the net. Will these types of music sound like crap on the lsi's?
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited October 2006
    Both Lsi's will sound good with all music. I listend to that Rotel the other day and the sound was great. But, if you want to run the nines I would consider a seperate amp. Just look thru the fourm. You will see endless threads on it.
    Michael


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    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited October 2006
    LSi should sound good with most music and it should sound good with the contemporary pop 40 type of stuff. Power it right and it will reward you back.

    As for the 9 vs 15 debate, in my ears, I would go 15s although there have been reports on this forum regarding difficulty of placement.

    YMMV.
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  • mailman23
    mailman23 Posts: 93
    edited October 2006
    so you have heard the axioms?I was afraid that they may sound like crap.Only backed by propoganda on audioholics.com
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  • mailman23
    mailman23 Posts: 93
    edited October 2006
    also lsi 9 over rti 10's or 12's??
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited October 2006
    mailman23 wrote:
    also lsi 9 over rti 10's or 12's??

    The Lsi line is the top dog for Polk. Although I have never owned the Rti-10 I listened to them in my house for a day and they were nice. Not as good as the Lsi's though.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
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  • pblanc
    pblanc Posts: 261
    edited October 2006
    I have tried both LSi9s and LSi15s as front main speakers. My vote would be for the LSi15s. Suprisingly, they seem easier to drive than the LSi9's. The LSi9s also seem to have a more pronounced mid-bass hump in their frequency response, to my ears. The 15's look better to me, actually less imposing than the LSi9s, which once they are up on stands look a bit top-heavy.
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  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited October 2006
    I run LSi15s and feel confident based on your your music preferences (the same as mine) that you will be happier with RTi12s.
    Do you hear that buzzing noise? :confused:
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  • mailman23
    mailman23 Posts: 93
    edited October 2006
    Has anyone listened to rocket 760's or 450's.I hear that they have the same tweeter as the lsi's and run at 8 ohms.If I can run my system without the use of an external amp it would be a plus.I am starting to lean towards the yamaha rxv 2700 as my receiver.It will set me back about 1400.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited October 2006
    If you want to get on it hard, go with the Lsi15's. The 9's will begin to collapse the soundstage at high volume levels. It's not an issue with the Lsi9, it's an issue with all bookshelf speakers--- If you listen from just shy of insane, down to background music, the Lsi9 is terrific.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited October 2006
    mailman23 wrote:
    Has anyone listened to rocket 760's or 450's.I hear that they have the same tweeter as the lsi's and run at 8 ohms.If I can run my system without the use of an external amp it would be a plus.I am starting to lean towards the yamaha rxv 2700 as my receiver.It will set me back about 1400.

    I have heard the 850s... they are good speakers, but I would take the 15 over them.

    Joey
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • mailman23
    mailman23 Posts: 93
    edited October 2006
    what is the main difference(sound wise) between the lsi 15's and the rti 12's?The price for the 15's is only a couple hundred more, but the I have to buy an amp for about $800.Do the 15's, lsi center and surrounds sound $1500 better than the 12's and company?
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited October 2006
    You probably have to buy an $800 amp regardless of the 12 or the 15.
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  • mailman23
    mailman23 Posts: 93
    edited October 2006
    yeah I was just looking at that.should bi amp the 12's at least.But do the 15's sound that much better ?
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited October 2006
    12's and 15's are totally different animals. I like the 15's betters, to each their own. You'd be better off auditioning both, IMO I'd get 15's anyday over the 12's.

    Mike
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited October 2006
    The 12s will pound more than the 15s would.. in the bass department especially... however, the lure of the 15s is not in sheer power, but in the way it presents the audio reproduction. I think that the 15s are very very good music speakers and many would agree.

    The thing you have to note is that Polk is not necessarily an "audiophile" company ****, and many will shun the fact that Polk and audiophile is ever mentioned in the same sentence. Now, with that in mind, the 15s have been recently garnering GREAT reviews from audiophile circles everywhere!

    Which means that despite the bias that some will have against Polk.... there is no denying that the 15s are superior speakers.

    And THAT my friend, is a good sign that should point you towards your next pair of speakers.

    Hands down, the LSi15s if you properly treat it with a good amp, good room, good positioning, good source.. will beat out anything in its $1500 price range.

    Joey
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited October 2006
    The LSi15 may be too subtle for your taste (speaking to your music preferences), so I'll say it again:

    I run LSi15s and feel confident based on your your music preferences (the same as mine) that you will be happier with RTi12s.
    Do you hear that buzzing noise? :confused:
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited October 2006
    I will say this... rap or hiphop sounds better on the LSi than they do on the RTi. The RTi is too bright and a lot of rap/hiphop is vocal oriented.... put those together.

    You get what I mean.

    Joey
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • mailman23
    mailman23 Posts: 93
    edited October 2006
    what about the 12's vs the 9's(with a good sub)I plan to listen to all(9's,12"s and 15's) at Sound Advice(Tweeter)I just want the best bang for my buck,not to mention a system that I won't need to upgrade any time soon.My wife would kill me if I got speakers and upgraded soon after, so this has gotta be a good choice!!
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited October 2006
    mailman23 wrote:
    what about the 12's vs the 9's(with a good sub)I plan to listen to all(9's,12"s and 15's) at Sound Advice(Tweeter)I just want the best bang for my buck,not to mention a system that I won't need to upgrade any time soon.My wife would kill me if I got speakers and upgraded soon after, so this has gotta be a good choice!!

    Keep in mind that all the speakers you're looking at are very good speakers. So it's not like you're going to be unhappy with any of them.
    If you're like everyone else on here, you will buy a sub at some point anyway. If it was me I would buy the 9's if the money was tight out of the 3. They have good bass without a sub.
    Go listen, make a choice and pull the trigger. Go home enjoy it and don't look back.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
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  • criverajr
    criverajr Posts: 1,675
    edited October 2006
    Dudes,

    Can we make the 15's vs. 9's a sticky or what? I must see one of these at least once a week. A little search will give all those that want to know the answers their looking for. It seems that 3/4 of the people who ask this question usually don't get either. Sorry for the hi-jack, back to your discussion.

    CRj
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited October 2006
    criverajr wrote:
    Dudes,

    Can we make the 15's vs. 9's a sticky or what? I must see one of these at least once a week. A little search will give all those that want to know the answers their looking for. It seems that 3/4 of the people who ask this question usually don't get either. Sorry for the hi-jack, back to your discussion.

    CRj

    Sad but true...... Funny how the disscussions go on and on. They end up up being split down the middle anyway.
    ;)
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited October 2006
    If you have the room, I would say that it's not even a discussion between the 9s or the 15s. The 15s are cleaner in the midrange are a bigger bang for the buck than the 9s, in my opinion. If you want to know which is the better of the 3, I would say 15s hands down.

    Joey
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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