Just finished 2-way floorstander

Moreants
Moreants Posts: 70
edited November 2006 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
36" tall , Seas drivers.

Still have to buff/polish the lacquer. Also made provisions to turn it into a 3-way someday.
I remember when 'broadband' meant The Go-Go's.
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  • izafar
    izafar Posts: 819
    edited October 2006
    wow, this looks great, beautiful workmanship. how does it sound?
    -izafar

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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited October 2006
    What do you do with these speakers once you make them? Do you sell them?
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited October 2006
    You can make speakers for me any day. :)
    madmax
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited October 2006
    Gorgeous!!!:eek:
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  • fireshoes
    fireshoes Posts: 3,167
    edited October 2006
    Nice man! Keep it up!
  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited October 2006
    That is an absolutely beautiful finish on them. I am sorry man but I need details please, both regarding the finish and the detail on the baffle edge. Hard to tell but that looks like more than just your standard roundover on the outer edge.

    Thanks,
    Mike
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited October 2006
    I want a pair!!!!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,645
    edited October 2006
    Beautiful job!!!
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited October 2006
    Sweet :)

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  • Moreants
    Moreants Posts: 70
    edited October 2006
    That is an absolutely beautiful finish on them. I am sorry man but I need details please, both regarding the finish and the detail on the baffle edge. Hard to tell but that looks like more than just your standard roundover on the outer edge.

    Thanks,
    Mike


    The finish is spray cans of Rustoleum Auto primer followed by Duplicolor Truck/Van (Dark Garnet Red) and sealed with Deft gloss lacquer. Still waitng to finish curing before buffing/polishing. MUST use a mask.

    I drew a line 3" from front on sides/top as a guide and sculpted by hand. Contour gauge helped but was still a lot of work. BTW sides are 1 1/2" thick.

    The 7" Seas H1215 has exceptional bass, something I was concerned about initially. Overall a sweet sounding speaker .

    I have made provisions in its design to convert to a 3-way fairly easily. Top of front baffle could fit a Vifa D26NC55 tweeter or one of the Morel small faces. Wire for mid already routed through cabinet. Current tweeter cutout is exact fit for any of the Vifa 4"mids.
    I remember when 'broadband' meant The Go-Go's.
  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited October 2006
    I can't get over how gorgeous that finish is, and it is going to get better yet. Thanks for the info.

    Mike
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    Usher CP 6311

    Phillips Pronto TS1000 Universal Remote
  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited October 2006
    Absolutely gorgeous!! Still trying to get over the fact that the finish is used with spray cans! You my friend are definetly an artist! Beautiful!

    Mike
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,645
    edited October 2006
    Spray cans of Deft.....ugh, that's nasty sheeet. Bring them over here and I'll shoot you a real nice, true lacquer finish.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited October 2006
    looks great, would love to hear em
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  • Moreants
    Moreants Posts: 70
    edited October 2006
    Buffed one of them today. Color is a bit brighter and metalflake shows through now.
    I remember when 'broadband' meant The Go-Go's.
  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited October 2006
    Those look great.I bet those enclosures have a few man hours into them.
    Did you design the crossover yourself or copy another design?
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  • Moreants
    Moreants Posts: 70
    edited October 2006
    GV#27 wrote:
    Those look great.I bet th+ose enclosures have a few man hours into them.
    Did you design the crossover yourself or copy another design?


    Yes a lot of man hours in them. I started on them about a month ago. I also incorporated a couple of features that allowed me the option of converting them to a 3-way in the future.

    The only access to the x-over is through the woofer cutout. However with the internal bracing it would have been impossible to do. So I created what I call an "Active Brace" which is essentially a turnbuckle attached to large eye-hooks on the sides (which are 1 1/2" thick btw.). Torqueing it by hand gives plenty of force. This allows me to remove the brace to get the x-over out. The x-over is mounted with velcro on a slanted board below the woofer. (See pic). Bottom compartments are 3/4 filled with sand (actually kitty litter, sand was just too heavy.)

    Crossover was copied from an existing design.
    I remember when 'broadband' meant The Go-Go's.
  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited October 2006
    I notice that these very closely resemble a couple of Kharma models. Were you trying to duplicate one of their designs, or did you just like the style of them?

    Just curious.
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  • Moreants
    Moreants Posts: 70
    edited October 2006
    cmy330go wrote:
    I notice that these very closely resemble a couple of Kharma models. Were you trying to duplicate one of their designs, or did you just like the style of them?

    Just curious.
    I don't see much resemblance?;)

    I liked the style of them but those Accutons and 9900 tweeters run about $1000.:eek: Then there's the Silver oils and....


    I tend to shy away from boxes and admire those who make speakers that not only sound good but look good. I would compare this hobby to that of car building or collecting. You would probably prefer to have something that not only performs great but looks great too.

    And also I have no WAF problem.:D

    I also did another Kharma model awhile back. see pic.
    I remember when 'broadband' meant The Go-Go's.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,732
    edited October 2006
    You make some complex sheat dude...

    I hope to be able to make some stuff like that one of these here days...
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited October 2006
    Those are really good looking. I've admired the look of the Kharma line for quite a while now. Keep up the good work.

    I too look forward to doing those kind of projects in the near future, but just can't seem to find the time yet. One of these days!
    HT
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited October 2006
    They are some very nice looking speakers. do they sound as nice as they look?
    Michael


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  • Mazeroth
    Mazeroth Posts: 1,585
    edited October 2006
    VERY nice work!

    What software/hardware are you using for your crossover work? I've been learning SoundEasy (should be SoundHard) recently along with an M-Audio Mobile Pre and a Behringer ECM8000. I'm currently designing a 3-way dipole with four Dayton RS225s (40-300hz), a single Dayton RS150 (300-1.4khz) and a single Dayton RS28 (1.4khz+). You should really give dipole speakers a try. It looks like you've mastered a typical speaker, so why not step up to the next level :D
  • Moreants
    Moreants Posts: 70
    edited November 2006
    Mazeroth wrote:
    VERY nice work!

    What software/hardware are you using for your crossover work? I've been learning SoundEasy (should be SoundHard) recently along with an M-Audio Mobile Pre and a Behringer ECM8000. I'm currently designing a 3-way dipole with four Dayton RS225s (40-300hz), a single Dayton RS150 (300-1.4khz) and a single Dayton RS28 (1.4khz+). You should really give dipole speakers a try. It looks like you've mastered a typical speaker, so why not step up to the next level :D




    The x-over was an existing LEAP design with these drivers. I have not delved into the software yet. I usually have my x-overs custom designed based on my specs.


    I've considered dipoles and heard the pros/cons but have never seen nor heard one myself. Maybe someday.

    I'd like to watch the progress on your project. Please post when you can.

    Thanks.
    I remember when 'broadband' meant The Go-Go's.
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited November 2006
    Those are beautiful! Congrats.
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited November 2006
    You, Sir, are one very talended craftman! Beautiful work!

    Can I order a pair of Sonus Faber Amati Anniversario look-a-like? :)

    (...and how much...?)
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
  • Moreants
    Moreants Posts: 70
    edited November 2006
    polkatese wrote:
    You, Sir, are one very talended craftman! Beautiful work!

    Can I order a pair of Sonus Faber Amati Anniversario look-a-like? :)

    (...and how much...?)

    :) Never thought of the Amati...hmmmm. Another floorstander and the wife would shoot me.

    But I do have one set each of Guarneris and Concertos in stock. Unfortunately I only made those for my personal use.
    I remember when 'broadband' meant The Go-Go's.
  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited November 2006
    Very nice work Sir. Other than speakers do you build anything else?
    Michael ;)
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  • Moreants
    Moreants Posts: 70
    edited November 2006
    janmike wrote:
    Very nice work Sir. Other than speakers do you build anything else?

    No, just speakers (and stands). And according to my wife.... tooooo many!:o
    I remember when 'broadband' meant The Go-Go's.
  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited November 2006
    You still haven't mentioned how they sound????