Need help selecting AV rcvr for Polk 4ohm speakers
mnawalters
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Hello,
I have installed in-walls and subs for a home theater as detailed below:
(1)LC265i - center
(4)LC65i - F,L, RF, RL
(2)LC80i - SF, SL
(2)Klipsch 12" subs.
I need to purchase a 7.1 receiver that will drive this. I first tried a yamaha and it kept kicking out on power safe. I read it was only good for 6-8 ohms so I went out and purchased a Sony ES that stated it could handle 4 ohms - however, this unit kicked out as well.
I then tried a Denon 3806 receiver (from recommendation from home theater store) which worked up to -20dB, then kicked out anything louder than that. I set the speakers to small with a 80Hz crossover. The unit does state 6-8 ohms so I am thinking of taking it back for a unit that actually states it can handle 4 ohms.
Does anyone know of a receiver that can drive these speakers?
I have installed in-walls and subs for a home theater as detailed below:
(1)LC265i - center
(4)LC65i - F,L, RF, RL
(2)LC80i - SF, SL
(2)Klipsch 12" subs.
I need to purchase a 7.1 receiver that will drive this. I first tried a yamaha and it kept kicking out on power safe. I read it was only good for 6-8 ohms so I went out and purchased a Sony ES that stated it could handle 4 ohms - however, this unit kicked out as well.
I then tried a Denon 3806 receiver (from recommendation from home theater store) which worked up to -20dB, then kicked out anything louder than that. I set the speakers to small with a 80Hz crossover. The unit does state 6-8 ohms so I am thinking of taking it back for a unit that actually states it can handle 4 ohms.
Does anyone know of a receiver that can drive these speakers?
Post edited by mnawalters on
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Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
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Grant Fidelity tube dac
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Keep the Denon & get one of these:http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/7200.html
You have already found out the hard way that receivers by themselves have a hard time driving that kind of a load, especially since you like to crank it. And you have already tried one that said it could handle 4ohm speakers & it failed. So help your receiver out with a separate amp.Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
Or you can get a used 5 channel amp like a carver or 7 channel amp that can handle 4 ohms or whatever your budget allows ,a good place to shop for an amp is www.audiogon.com which always have some pretty good deals in the classifieds on new and used poweramps....
also look at this bargain for example
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1165449066My gear,
Acer PH530 720P PJ
100 inch Da-Lite Video Spectra screen
Yamaha HTR 5790
Toshiba HD-A3
Denon 1600 dvd player with sdi out,
DVDO iSCAN HD+
Panasonic Dmr E-80H
Dishnetwork HD pvr
1 Audiosource amp300 150 wpc Fronts
1 Audiosource ampone bridged 200 watts powering center
1 Onkyo M-282 105 wpc amplifier sides
polk cs400 center
polk RT400 mains
Polk mkII back surrounds,
Polk FX300fxi dipole surrounds
Velodyne DPS-10 sub
Klipsch KSW-10 sub.:cool: -
There are plenty of good receiver options. But my tip is to get rid of the Klipsch sub!:DHT
Mits WD-65737, DirecTV, Oppo DV-970HD, XBOX ONE, Yamaha RX-A1030, Parasound Halo A23, Rotel RB-985, Music Hall MMF-7, Parasound PPH-100, LSi-15, LSi-C, LSi-FX, LSi-7, PSW-1000, Monster HTS2600
2 CH
Parasound Halo P3, Parasound Halo A21, Sutherland Ph.D, VPI Classic 3 w/ 3D arm & Soundsmith Aida Cartridge, Arcam CD72T, B&W 802 S3, Monster HTS2500, -
Since you have a complete set of LSI's I wouldn't get an amp that's less than 200 watts per channel.
Look on Audiogon for Rotel, Parasound, Outlaw, Sunfire. That's just a few, the list is endless!Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
If you are set on a receiver, there are only a few capable of doing it. They won't be cheap.
B&K, Sunfire, and a (very) few others. I personally have a Sunfire, ad I cannot say enough for it. But my HT has 8 Ohm speakers.
Another optio is to do as Cathy said and get an amplifier and use your current AVR for processing. -
I would almost think there is a short somewhere within the system, as it has done this with several different receivers.
I agree that the LSi's need more power, but they shouldn't be shutting down every receiver. There are a lot of people using receivers with the speakers, and have had relatively few problems.
Try hooking up a single speaker at a time to see if it does the same thing.Tschüss
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Id buy a used preamp and amp for the price of a new receiver
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Pathos Logos
MIT Shotgun S3
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I would redo the speaker wires and make sure there is no shorts...My gear,
Acer PH530 720P PJ
100 inch Da-Lite Video Spectra screen
Yamaha HTR 5790
Toshiba HD-A3
Denon 1600 dvd player with sdi out,
DVDO iSCAN HD+
Panasonic Dmr E-80H
Dishnetwork HD pvr
1 Audiosource amp300 150 wpc Fronts
1 Audiosource ampone bridged 200 watts powering center
1 Onkyo M-282 105 wpc amplifier sides
polk cs400 center
polk RT400 mains
Polk mkII back surrounds,
Polk FX300fxi dipole surrounds
Velodyne DPS-10 sub
Klipsch KSW-10 sub.:cool: -
The key to this whole thing is this statement right here.
"I then tried a Denon 3806 receiver (from recommendation from home theater store) which worked up to -20dB,"
If everything is calibrated, then the receiver is being pusHed HARD! If he had 8ohm speakers he would be fine, but even then his receiver would be hot as hell! Since the poor thing is pushing a full LSI series at that level of course it's going to go into protect mode.
We have seen people come on here with this problem time & time again!
He needs what you guys lovingly refer to as a MAN AMP of no less than 200 wpc & more if he can afford it!
Sheesh at least be consistent!:rolleyes:Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
What about one of the recievers from rotel? The amp section in the one I saw at the local dealer was pushing a set of 4ohm Totems. I didn't check out the model.Michael
Samsung 50" HD DLP
Yamaha RX-V2500
(2) Outlaw 200
Adcom GFA 555
Sony BDP300
Denon 2900 DVD
Lsi9's mains
Lsi7's rear
Lsic center
12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
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A Rotel receiver can do it. However, as you noted it was driving just 1 pair of speakers, not 7! Driving a full load of LSI's will put a strain even on a Rotel receiver.
I still say he is better off getting a separate 7 channel 200 wpc or more amp.MSALLA wrote:What about one of the recievers from rotel? The amp section in the one I saw at the local dealer was pushing a set of 4ohm Totems. I didn't check out the model.Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
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