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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited October 2006
    Mingus. Going right to the heart of it huh?
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited October 2006
    George Grand wrote:
    Mingus. Going right to the heart of it huh?

    Really? I have no idea who he is, but I played a few sample tracks and liked it a lot. Guess I have some research to do. I'm off to google him...
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited October 2006
    OK, I just ordered Mingus Ah Um. That's enough for now.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited October 2006
    Charles Mingus is one of the heaviest hitters in jazz. Don't expect to be able to tap your foot to a lot of his stuff. Kind of a "musicians musician" is Charlie Mingus. If you pleased Charles Mingus while playing in any of his bands, your ticket was punched.
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  • phono2
    phono2 Posts: 19
    edited October 2006
    George Grand wrote:
    I love you too Phono. All 8 posts. Welcome to the Polk Audio Forums.

    Might as well let the rest in. It's 4 minutes and 33 seconds of absolute silence. SOOO cutting edge is the new mans humor.

    I've been insulting people on this forum for close to eight years now. Let me change my approach just for you. Any chance you've heard Zappa & The Mothers doing "Go Cry On Somebody Elses Shoulder"? I highly recommend it.

    Yeah, all the warmth&love here......sniffle.......

    Poor Karen...had she lived she might have switched to playing drums in some heavy metal act.

    I was reminded of the John Cage piece by an item on YouTube.com - a "performance" of it. It was the goldarndest thing I've seen, like a Monty Python sketch.

    "Go Cry on Somebody Elses Shoulder" is from Zappa's "Freak Out", which I have... on CD. I'm not a vinyl diehard, though. It's just that I grew up with LP's, 45's, 78's even, turntables, cartridges, alignment gauges, hum, rumble, acoustic feedback, stylus crashes, and candle wax on the records.

    "Go Cry on Somebody Else's Shoulder" is a take on doo-wop that's 100% Zappa, especially the monlogue at the end. I also like the end of "You Didn't Try to Call Me", featuring a kid complaining to his girlfriend about not calling, and meanwhile he'd been fixing up his heap of a car. That, and Wowie Zowie. Zappa and his bunch had some dead-on satires of the American Scene.

    There's also "You're Probably Wondering Why I'm Here" in which Zappa berates his audience of young dimwits. I guess his band had to do a lot of teenage dances in the beginning to scrape up a few $$.

    And the liner notes...which I've mislaid, dammit. Perfesser Frank berates his semi educated readers who are ignorant of music.

    Zappa had an insult for everyone, often hilarious. It could veer into baby boomer arrogance, though.

    Another Zappa effort I have on LP is Hot Rats, soon after it came out. I got that when a friend of mine - the kind who had all the underground newspapers and the latest Ramparts - told me about Willie the Pimp. I had to have that. IMHO it's a great song, though the critics like the more jazz-oriented pieces on the album.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited October 2006
    Maybe you aren't such a bad newb after all. I was also going to recommend "Stop your Sobbing" by The Kinks, but maybe I'll wait on that for another whine.

    Hot Rats in its entirety represents to me, the greatest album ever recorded. Keep your vinyl copy, he dicked up the low end when he transferred it onto cd.

    Whenever Buddy Rich was asked who his FAVORITE drummer was, he responded with "Karen Carpenter". Whenever somebody asked him who the BEST drummer was, he responded with "I am".
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  • phono2
    phono2 Posts: 19
    edited October 2006
    George Grand wrote:
    Maybe you aren't such a bad newb after all. I was also going to recommend "Stop your Sobbing" by The Kinks, but maybe I'll wait on that for another whine.

    "Stop your Sobbing" by The Kinks - that's one I don't have. I have to settle for Chrissie Hynde's version with the Pretenders on their first album. Have to drag it out and play it. Hope the mildew's not gotten to it, or the Discwasher fluid residue.

    Hmmm...."This album has a longer running time than most average LP's therefore to achieve maximum effect PLAY THIS ALBUM LOUD."

    Not a good sign. No mildew or residue though. Sure enough, the sound is nasty and compressed. Play this album loud? I'd rather crank up my old Golden Records 45's. "Eatin' Goober Peas" by Don Elliot and the Skip Jacks at 110 dB.

    A pity, because IMHO, the Pretenders put out some high-energy rock n roll.
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