Dog Chapman

masanz1

I didnt' see a post on this yet

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/15/AR2006091500238.html

danger boy

LOL

what goes around, comes around.....

heiney9

I only heard the headline, but when your running from the law and skipping bail I really don't think you can complain too much. Unlawful detainment and kidnapping.......give me a break. If your running away from the law on MY dime I sure as hell am going to do what's neccessary within reason to make sure you get caught and put back in the pokey.

H9

heiney9

Not to mention the Max Factor heir had been on the lamb for years. Unconventional, yes but give me a break!

shack

First off...that show is a total pile of crap....I watched 30 seconds of it once when the remote fell under the couch and I couldn't find it fast enough to change the channel. Does anybody really watch this stuff?

On a more serious note...Bounty Hunters are an archaic, pathetic blemish on our legal system. Allowing these people to suspend basic rights because they are enforcing a "contract" is way past it's useful purpose IMO. I would rather give trained law enforcement agents more latitute to track down bail jumpers than to allow bounty hunters to exist. The stories I've heard from some of my lawyer friends would lead me to believe a lot of the bounty hunters deserve to be in jail as much as the fugitives they are after.

Drumingman

Second off... In a lot of these cases the Chapmans put up the bail for these folks and will lose it if the person jumps bail. I'm sure that shack would be willing to let them walk. Next time you get arrested, don't ask for bail and you won't have to worry about bounty hunters. As far as some of the stories from your lawyers friends, they are just that. Lawyers are not out in the streets of the cities trying to put the bad guys where they belong. It seems that you might prefer the criminal element just doing as they wish. Our Law Enforcement, in most cases have plenty to do without finding bail jumpers, Like Tracking Down Illegal Aliens.....Geez.

danger boy

I hope Dog knew that you can't just go taking the heir to the Max Factor cosmetics company and there not be hell to pay at some point down the road. I'm thinking that "heir" made some calls to the right people and had the dogman tracked down and arrested.

Dog should be lucky he didn't end up in the bottom of the ocean as shark chum or something, if you know what i mean.

Drumingman

That's what happens when the people of this country tolerate a two tier system of justice.

For example, rich people get to hire "Private Retired Judges" to rule on their cases. These judges are to to follow the rules of law but who is giving them the paycheck?

I don't give a crap if your the heir to a pile of crap, if you can make a call to the right people, you all should be behind bars.

danger boy

sad but true.. if you got that kind of cash.. then you are above the law in many cases.. you can easily pay people off. Judges, lawyers, or have someone take care of them for you.

opus

Allright all you rich guy haters and champions of the common man:p , tell me again how this is an example of a "two tier system of justice"

As I see it, Dog broke the law of a soveriegn nation, made bail and skipped, then following an appeal by said guvment to our guvment was arrested by federal marshals and will be extradited to Mexico. Makes sense to me. I'm sure you agree that Mexico has the right to prosecute those that break their laws. Especially those that are really annoying.

He wasn't exactly low profile.

George Grand

I walk into my family room and my wife and daughter are watching that trash. I just shake my head in disappointment. All the enlightening things they can tune into, and they watch that ****.

dorokusai

I would like to shave his head and punch him in the balls.....I'll worry about the end result later.

schwarcw

That program is bizarre! Talk about a dysfunctional family. You got to wonder how their small children will turn out?

shack

Drumingman wrote:

I'm sure that shack would be willing to let them walk.

No, but I expect the "good guys" to do it the right way and not waive all civil rights of the people they come in contact with. These guys have NO rules. No warrants needed, they can harrass relatives with no restraint, etc, etc...

Next time you get arrested, don't ask for bail and you won't have to worry about bounty hunters.

I've never been arrested....and I'm 99.99% sure I never will be.

As far as some of the stories from your lawyers friends, they are just that. Lawyers are not out in the streets of the cities trying to put the bad guys where they belong.

BS. This is coming from both prosecutors and defense attorneys. Most bounty hunters are barely a step above the bail jumpers they are chasing and have little regard for the law. Whatever it takes to "get their man"!

It seems that you might prefer the criminal element just doing as they wish.

What a profound statement....

Our Law Enforcement, in most cases have plenty to do without finding bail jumpers, Like Tracking Down Illegal Aliens.....Geez.

There are lots of ways to handle this. Make bail tougher to get, quit using fractional assets to post bail, use tracking bracelets...anything but bailbondsmen and bounty hunters.

Drumingman

Dear shack, I watch this show, do you? All the people I have seen them take into custody have been done so because a warrent has been issued for their arrest. So that arguement does not hold water.

Don't be so sure you will never be arrested. I have been threated to arrested by cops because they did not like the manner in which I was speaking, and I was the victim.

Maybe some "bounty hunters" do break the law, that does not mean that all bounty hunters are bad. I'm sure there are some folks in your profession that break the rules too, do you want to be lumped in with them?

If cops can't catch the ones on the run, who should help find them?
Yes, I have read the story of how Mexico does not allow bounty hunters in their country and this is related to the charges against the Chapmans. It doesn't surprise me that this is the case as Mexico refuses to return supects to the U.S. who are wanted for Murder charges. This happens all the time with Illegals who "sneak" across the border, commit a crime and hi-tale it back to Mexico.

If I'm arrested, why should bail be tougher be tougher for me? I am presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of Law. it seems to me that you want to put folks in jail, make it very hard to post bail, and just let them rot until the court date comes around. This is not how the law works. You post bail, you temporally get out, you break bail, back in you go. It is a contract, you do not seem to understand that. People put up money and properrty to help friends and relatives. If the person jumps bail because he is an inconsiderate ****, the people who tried to help him out should not be punished for his deeds.

shack

You are not going to change my opinion of the bounty hunter system. If there is a warrant for their arrest then it is up to LEO to arrest them. This is no more than a financial incentive for the bounty hunter. There is no "greater good" motivation on their part. It is a poor system and it's time to change it.

At 52 years old I have never even been threatend with arrest or been in a situation where that could be close to a possibility.

As I said there are better ways to handle people charged with a crime than the curent system IMO. Nothing in your POV changes my opinion.

jmwest1970

blah blah blah. It's like anything else in America. If you like the show, then watch the show. If you don't like the show, then don't watch the show.

I watch the show, but I find it hypocritical at times. What's with a guy who was once imprisoned for being an accessory to murder now hunting down criminals? Also, what's with his belief in God, prayer, and the like when starting after a criminal, then cursing out the person when they're found?

It's another example of the programming that the American people have decided they love to watch. I think it all started with Morton Downey Jr. and now we have Dog and Flava Flav.

brettw22

jmwest1970 wrote:

I think it all started with Morton Downey Jr.

I use to stay up late at night to watch that show.......lol......good stuff.

Drumingman

shack wrote:

You are not going to change my opinion of the bounty hunter system. If there is a warrant for their arrest then it is up to LEO to arrest them. This is no more than a financial incentive for the bounty hunter. There is no "greater good" motivation on their part. It is a poor system and it's time to change it.

At 52 years old I have never even been threatend with arrest or been in a situation where that could be close to a possibility.

As I said there are better ways to handle people charged with a crime than the curent system IMO. Nothing in your POV changes my opinion.

Thats right, they perform a service for a fee. The Police perform a service for a fee. You perform a service for a fee.

Well, you have probally never been the victim of a crime, that is good for you and you are one lucky fellow. However there are those of us out here in the real world that have been victims.

I'm not trying to change your POV, but you also need to see why this service is In Demand.