polks,rockets,others

mailman23
mailman23 Posts: 93
edited September 2006 in Speakers
I have had the lsi mind all along for my new house which is almost done.But as I am nearing my purchase, I wonder if other speakers,like rockets or axioms would be a better .Maybe I am just getting nervous,but I second guess every purchase
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  • jhermance
    jhermance Posts: 214
    edited September 2006
    Do you have the rest of your setup already or are you getting everything?
    Samsung UN46C7000
    Cambridge Audio 640R
    Sony BDP-S570
    Magnepan MMG's
    Totem Dreamcatcher Center
    Eleganza™ Bella 1200 High Performance Subwoofer
    Polk R15 Surrounds
    Audioquest Cables
    Panamax 5510-PRO AC Regenerator
    Monster Cable HTS 2500 MKII power cleaner
    Nordost Blue Heaven Interconnects
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,753
    edited September 2006
    The fact that John K. thinks Axiom's are the cats meow should be enough to tell you that you want absolutely nothing to do with them because that boy is stone cold tone deaf. Rockets go into space. Polk's reproduce music. Any other questions!?!
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • mailman23
    mailman23 Posts: 93
    edited September 2006
    right now I have an onkyo with no preouts,so I will have to start everything fresh.I like my onkyo, so probably a higher end onyo with preouts, a used rotel or outlaw and then the speakers.my room is 24x14x9 and opens up into the kitchen of the same size.I also have a 60 inch sony sxrd tv to build this around, so I want it too rock.60% music 40% movies
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  • criverajr
    criverajr Posts: 1,675
    edited September 2006
    Take a look at the Paradigms, the 60.v.3 or 100.v.3 The 100 are 8 Ohms but like their power, I don't think the Oink will do the LSI series justice, but listen to as many as you can then decide.

    CRj
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited September 2006
    Focal JM Lab
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited September 2006
    Tyler Acoustics Freedom

    Axioms suck the big hairy one...

    AV123 is nice. I like them...

    JM Labs are sweet.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited September 2006
    Yeah, you're going to need to ditch the Onkyo if you are considering the LSis.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited September 2006
    (or any of the speakers in this thread)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • mailman23
    mailman23 Posts: 93
    edited September 2006
    I planned on getting a used outlaw or rotel to power the speakers
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  • mailman23
    mailman23 Posts: 93
    edited September 2006
    is 4 ohms almost always better than 8 ohm?
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited September 2006
    No, it has nothing to do with whats better, it has to do with how much power is required to make the speaker operate as intended, each design has benefits and flaws.

    Buy the LSI's get the power you need.

    RT1
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  • Lsi9
    Lsi9 Posts: 616
    edited September 2006
    The Lsi9/15s use the same vivaXT tweeter that the Onix (higher end Rockets)use, so you are getting the same tweets for a lot less...
    While I haven't heard the Tyler brand there are a few things that I question with these speakers; velco grills and lack R&D on cabinet resonance, they have great drivers though....If I had to do it all over again which I probably will do eventually I would go with 8 ohm speakers, easier to drive with less watts.

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited September 2006
    The 90,000 dollar Wilson X1 uses velcro grills dude...lol

    1" thick cabs + bracing of any king is pretty substantial...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • 2+2
    2+2 Posts: 546
    edited September 2006
    LSi15s and 9s sound different (obviously) so what model you have in mind will matter...same applies to rockets....Rockets are nicer looking and has just as good of build as LSis IMO...sound, depending on your preference and model, may or may not be better....not very helpful I know but...
    System 1: Martin Logan Vantage, Rotel RC 1070, B&K Reference 200.2, Music Hall DAC 15.2, Yamaha 2300

    System 2: LSi15 w/db840, Marantz SR8400, Rotel 1080, RM6800 (C&S), Sony X2020ES

    System 3: LSi7, Yamaha SW215, Music Hall Maven, Music Hall MMF CD25 w/627opamps

    System 4: RTi100, Harman Kardon AVR 230, Panasonic DVD
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  • mailman23
    mailman23 Posts: 93
    edited September 2006
    I was looking at the rocket 760's. you have the 750's?how do they sound?that is part of the problem.I can audition the lsi's, but not the rockets.I am just left with reviews and opinions.I can however save about 500 to 600 with the rockets, not needing the help of an external amp right away.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited September 2006
    Hey, just buy the Lsi's, dammit, if that's what you originally wanted. There are a thousand speaker options and you'll keep going in circles if you don't make a firm decision.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • Lsi9
    Lsi9 Posts: 616
    edited September 2006
    Personally I would skip both and just go for the Monitor RS6's (8ohm) beautiful for the money and like in the other thread they are cho0sen best speaks (for the price range) of the year. you can get em for like 600$ a pair. I am a big fan of Monitor they can do no wrong IMO and they make their own drivers!

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  • mailman23
    mailman23 Posts: 93
    edited September 2006
    I like the way the rockets look and I am curious about their sound,if anyone has heard them??
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited September 2006
    As others have said, ditch the onkyo, but you might look at yamaha instead- last I looked you could get pre-outs on them w/ cheaper models and 1) you won't be using the power section, so it won't matter that much and 2)it's just a stepping stone till you get a real pre-amp.
    Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
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  • 2+2
    2+2 Posts: 546
    edited September 2006
    The 750s sound pretty good but it sounds quite a bit smaller and more conventional than LSi 15s. They sound a bit like LSi7s but much deeper, and tight bass. The bass does not go as low as 15s but it is much much tighter. The biggest difference between 750s and 15 is in the upper mid/lower highs. 15s can sound a bit strange with some recordings, seemingly throwing too much sound to the back of the speakers...this is not present in 750s or 7s... of course, they sound more conventional as a result too...if you go to av123 website, you can find out who owns Rockets near you and can get an audition....BTW, Axiom M60s do not compare to LSis or Rockets in any level.....
    System 1: Martin Logan Vantage, Rotel RC 1070, B&K Reference 200.2, Music Hall DAC 15.2, Yamaha 2300

    System 2: LSi15 w/db840, Marantz SR8400, Rotel 1080, RM6800 (C&S), Sony X2020ES

    System 3: LSi7, Yamaha SW215, Music Hall Maven, Music Hall MMF CD25 w/627opamps

    System 4: RTi100, Harman Kardon AVR 230, Panasonic DVD
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited September 2006
    Im going to have to second Early B...

    If you wanted LSis from the start, follow the gut dude, unless you plan on doing double or more of the price, you wont go wrong with the LSi line up.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited September 2006
    True...
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  • michael_w
    michael_w Posts: 2,813
    edited September 2006
    Get to be good friends with a future shop or best buy employee... you wouldn't believe what kind of prices they give to the employees in regards to polks. Then you'll have no reason to not go polk. I probably shouldn't post exact numbers but if you're really really curious and plan to go that route pm me ;)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited September 2006
    Mark up in HA is rediculous.

    But Polk's LSi line is worth it...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited September 2006
    mailman23 wrote:
    I like the way the rockets look and I am curious about their sound,if anyone has heard them??

    I tried my best to talk a friend into buying a full LSi setup for his HT. He opted for the rockets and an SVS instead. He was not disappointed and I was somewhat impressed. They sounded pretty much like I expected the LSi's to. Cheaper or more expensive, I don't know but they had the same character. Probably due to the tweeter that was mentioned. I had no idea they used the same one. I would still go with the LSi's because I've seen what went into them design wise but I didn't hear any real down side in his setup with the rockets. Of course I couldn't compare side by side.
    madmax

    Edit: source material was movies only, never heard any music so I have no idea.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

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  • josh_parsons626
    josh_parsons626 Posts: 219
    edited September 2006
    So what y'all are saying is that you cant go wrong with Polk LOL?!
    Don't forget to look at My Home Theater :D

    Receiver - Onkyo TX-SR503
    Fronts - Polk Audio Monitor 40
    Center - Polk Audio CS1
    Surrounds - Paradigm Cinema ADP
    Subwoofer - Velodyne VRP-1200
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