Sr10, Ib?

Toxis
Toxis Posts: 5,116
edited September 2006 in Car Audio & Electronics
Is this sub designed to work Infinite Baffle? I really don't want to hang a box under my rear deck and want to go IB. If this doesn't work, I'll have to go with an IDMAX10. I really want to keep it in the family if possible... Thom, what do you think?
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Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
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  • mirra540ryder
    mirra540ryder Posts: 136
    edited September 2006
    i think my sub should be here on wedsday
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2006
    IB setups are SQ only setups.

    With IB the sub wont handle as much power as it normally would so forget about maximum SPL but the SQ will be just fine. There are several SQ competitors out there running IB and doing quite well.

    One thing tho, larger subs are usually better for IB because they can reproduce the lower frequencies easier than a smaller sub and with the lower power handling, you may lose some low end extension.

    The best way to see if a sub will work well in IB, check the Qts and try to get one between .5 and .65 and since the SR10 has a Qts of .53, I think it would be fine in IB.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited September 2006
    MacLeod wrote:
    IB setups are SQ only setups.

    With IB the sub wont handle as much power as it normally would so forget about maximum SPL but the SQ will be just fine. There are several SQ competitors out there running IB and doing quite well.

    One thing tho, larger subs are usually better for IB because they can reproduce the lower frequencies easier than a smaller sub and with the lower power handling, you may lose some low end extension.

    The best way to see if a sub will work well in IB, check the Qts and try to get one between .5 and .65 and since the SR10 has a Qts of .53, I think it would be fine in IB.
    my little mac is getting all grown up and starting to use t/s parameters...almost brings a tear to my eye...
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2006
    Dont bet on it!!

    All that stuff is still Greek to me!

    I just do a lot of reading and have always read to look for the .5 - .65 Qts for IB setups.

    I can make it sound like Im pretty smart.....just dont ask me what Qts means? :p
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited September 2006
    quarts?
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited September 2006
    beer?

    :D
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited September 2006
    Hmmm... so it is possible eh? V E R Y interesting. I can get the Polk at work, not any ID's so the $$ is much easier to afford. ;) So now the question is, relating to my other thread in a way but now altered slightly, how much power? 300w? Xtant 3.1...???
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    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2006
    I would use the 6.1 instead.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited September 2006
    i wouldnt do more than 500w in an IB set up with the 10s
    -Cody
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2006
    Nah.

    Youre right that IB subs cant handle as much power as enclosed subs and if we were talking about the average teeniebopper that just wants to be the loudest guy in his high school's parking lot Id agree with you but Toxis has been around a while and Im sure he knows how to set a gain so that he's not overdriving anything.
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited September 2006
    Yeah, gains are meant to be turned as far to the right as possible... you know, to get the most amount of power. Kinda like the crossover. Turn it all teh way up! I want more bass... and higher frequency is more bass. YES! lol

    I might have a deal on an Xtant x603 which would give me 75 to the comps (SR's eventually) and 300w @2ohm for the 10". I think this should be fine. I'm going for sound quality with a little umph. I don't want to be over 135db or anything, just something in the high 120's.
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    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2006
    More power doesnt necessarily mean louder. It also means better SQ if done right.

    Im looking to add some more juice to my sub in the future. 300 watts aint quite cutting it.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited September 2006
    find a probox dealer and grab one of their 1-10 or 1-12 dodge quad cab boxes, i wouldnt doubt youd hear a difference in output
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2006
    Wont be that much. My box now isnt that much smaller than spec.

    I think adding an extra 150 or so would be just about right.

    Besides, those boxes take up half the underseat area and I need that space for storage and my amps.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited September 2006
    MacLeod wrote:
    Wont be that much. My box now isnt that much smaller than spec.
    that might be true but i wonder about your box making skills after the whole 4-side thing;)
    -Cody
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2006
    Get some new material.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited September 2006
    go break an RCA?
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2006
    That would be bliss' dad! ;)
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited September 2006
    lol. I tried:D

    At least im not drunk tonite
    -Cody
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