Interconnects and the weakest link.

joeparaski
joeparaski Posts: 1,865
edited August 2006 in Electronics
Ok, so I upgraded most of my interconnects to stuff from Audio Art. But then I realized that the back of some of my amps don't have RCA connections, but rather, 1\4 inch phone jacks. So I have to use 1\4 to RCA connectors at that point. Did I just lose all the benefits of the expensive interconnects?

Joe
Amplifiers: 1-SAE Mark IV, 4-SAE 2400, 1-SAE 2500, 2-SAE 2600, 1-Buttkicker BKA 1000N w/2-tactile transducers. Sources: Sony BDP CX7000es, Sony CX300/CX400/CX450/CX455, SAE 8000 tuner, Akai 4000D R2R, Technics 1100A TT, Epson 8500UB with Carada 100". Speakers:Polk SDA SRS, 3.1TL, FXi5, FXi3, 2-SVS 20-29, Yamaha, SVS center sub. Power:2-Monster HTS3500, Furman M-8D & RR16 Plus. 2-SAE 4000 X-overs, SAE 5000a noise reduction, MSB Link DAC III, MSB Powerbase, Behringer 2496, Monarchy DIP 24/96.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2006
    No, and don't think about it so much or you'll just go thru this whole thing again. DH Labs provides an excellent base for any aftermarket IC.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited August 2006
    Yep, you're screwed. Gotta buy them all over again. Kinda defeats the purpose to have a connector on an interconnect. It will probably add color to the sound. Only one way to find out, though, before you return them -- make a trip to the Rat Shack, spend $3, and do an A/B demo.
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  • joeparaski
    joeparaski Posts: 1,865
    edited August 2006
    dorokusai wrote:
    No, and don't think about it so much or you'll just go thru this whole thing again. DH Labs provides an excellent base for any aftermarket IC.

    Hearing it from you makes me breath a sigh of relief. I checked DH Labs website and they don't have the proper connector listed anywhere. I picked some up some temporary "regular" connectors until I can locate some "fancy pants" connectors.

    Thanks.
    Amplifiers: 1-SAE Mark IV, 4-SAE 2400, 1-SAE 2500, 2-SAE 2600, 1-Buttkicker BKA 1000N w/2-tactile transducers. Sources: Sony BDP CX7000es, Sony CX300/CX400/CX450/CX455, SAE 8000 tuner, Akai 4000D R2R, Technics 1100A TT, Epson 8500UB with Carada 100". Speakers:Polk SDA SRS, 3.1TL, FXi5, FXi3, 2-SVS 20-29, Yamaha, SVS center sub. Power:2-Monster HTS3500, Furman M-8D & RR16 Plus. 2-SAE 4000 X-overs, SAE 5000a noise reduction, MSB Link DAC III, MSB Powerbase, Behringer 2496, Monarchy DIP 24/96.
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  • joeparaski
    joeparaski Posts: 1,865
    edited August 2006
    Early B. wrote:
    Yep, you're screwed. Gotta buy them all over again. Kinda defeats the purpose to have a connector on an interconnect. It will probably add color to the sound. Only one way to find out, though, before you return them -- make a trip to the Rat Shack, spend $3, and do an A/B demo.


    I have no choice to put connectors on the interconnects. Perhaps I should look into changing the 1/4 inch jacks on the rear of the amp to RCA connectors.

    Joe
    Amplifiers: 1-SAE Mark IV, 4-SAE 2400, 1-SAE 2500, 2-SAE 2600, 1-Buttkicker BKA 1000N w/2-tactile transducers. Sources: Sony BDP CX7000es, Sony CX300/CX400/CX450/CX455, SAE 8000 tuner, Akai 4000D R2R, Technics 1100A TT, Epson 8500UB with Carada 100". Speakers:Polk SDA SRS, 3.1TL, FXi5, FXi3, 2-SVS 20-29, Yamaha, SVS center sub. Power:2-Monster HTS3500, Furman M-8D & RR16 Plus. 2-SAE 4000 X-overs, SAE 5000a noise reduction, MSB Link DAC III, MSB Powerbase, Behringer 2496, Monarchy DIP 24/96.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2006
    PM DaveShepard and ask him about geting you squared away with the correct DH Labs terminations or cables.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited August 2006
    If you cannot get what you want from DH Labs I recommend using the gold plated ones from radio shack. They do the job very nicely. They are a 1/4th inch phono plug with an RCA on the other side. All one piece and built nicely.
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  • joeparaski
    joeparaski Posts: 1,865
    edited August 2006
    Ok, I'll check out the Radio Shack connectors, btw, is it a big job to actually replace the connector in the amp with an RCA female connector?

    I assume that Dave Shepard is the main guy at DH Labs?
    Amplifiers: 1-SAE Mark IV, 4-SAE 2400, 1-SAE 2500, 2-SAE 2600, 1-Buttkicker BKA 1000N w/2-tactile transducers. Sources: Sony BDP CX7000es, Sony CX300/CX400/CX450/CX455, SAE 8000 tuner, Akai 4000D R2R, Technics 1100A TT, Epson 8500UB with Carada 100". Speakers:Polk SDA SRS, 3.1TL, FXi5, FXi3, 2-SVS 20-29, Yamaha, SVS center sub. Power:2-Monster HTS3500, Furman M-8D & RR16 Plus. 2-SAE 4000 X-overs, SAE 5000a noise reduction, MSB Link DAC III, MSB Powerbase, Behringer 2496, Monarchy DIP 24/96.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2006
    Sorry, no he's a Polkie.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited August 2006
    i'im curious what kind of gear do you have the uses those kinds of connectors? is it more along the lines of a PA amp... or pro audio gear or something. I haven't seen 1/4 inch plugs used in home stereo gear for a long time.
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  • joeparaski
    joeparaski Posts: 1,865
    edited August 2006
    I have 3 Bose 1801 amps and 1 Bose 1800 amp. They are old vintage amps, very powerful too, the 1801's weigh 83 pounds each. They all have 1/4 plugs instead of rca connectors.

    Joe
    Amplifiers: 1-SAE Mark IV, 4-SAE 2400, 1-SAE 2500, 2-SAE 2600, 1-Buttkicker BKA 1000N w/2-tactile transducers. Sources: Sony BDP CX7000es, Sony CX300/CX400/CX450/CX455, SAE 8000 tuner, Akai 4000D R2R, Technics 1100A TT, Epson 8500UB with Carada 100". Speakers:Polk SDA SRS, 3.1TL, FXi5, FXi3, 2-SVS 20-29, Yamaha, SVS center sub. Power:2-Monster HTS3500, Furman M-8D & RR16 Plus. 2-SAE 4000 X-overs, SAE 5000a noise reduction, MSB Link DAC III, MSB Powerbase, Behringer 2496, Monarchy DIP 24/96.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited August 2006
    Joe,

    Ok. thanks..I thought maybe they were some vintage gear of some kind.. i don't know of any modern day gear that use those..

    so did you get adapters to convert the connects to work for you?
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  • joeparaski
    joeparaski Posts: 1,865
    edited August 2006
    I got some adapters at the local sound equipement rental store as a temporary thing till I get some better ones.

    Joe
    Amplifiers: 1-SAE Mark IV, 4-SAE 2400, 1-SAE 2500, 2-SAE 2600, 1-Buttkicker BKA 1000N w/2-tactile transducers. Sources: Sony BDP CX7000es, Sony CX300/CX400/CX450/CX455, SAE 8000 tuner, Akai 4000D R2R, Technics 1100A TT, Epson 8500UB with Carada 100". Speakers:Polk SDA SRS, 3.1TL, FXi5, FXi3, 2-SVS 20-29, Yamaha, SVS center sub. Power:2-Monster HTS3500, Furman M-8D & RR16 Plus. 2-SAE 4000 X-overs, SAE 5000a noise reduction, MSB Link DAC III, MSB Powerbase, Behringer 2496, Monarchy DIP 24/96.
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  • joeparaski
    joeparaski Posts: 1,865
    edited August 2006
    These are the temporary connectors I got.

    Connector1.jpg


    Joe
    Amplifiers: 1-SAE Mark IV, 4-SAE 2400, 1-SAE 2500, 2-SAE 2600, 1-Buttkicker BKA 1000N w/2-tactile transducers. Sources: Sony BDP CX7000es, Sony CX300/CX400/CX450/CX455, SAE 8000 tuner, Akai 4000D R2R, Technics 1100A TT, Epson 8500UB with Carada 100". Speakers:Polk SDA SRS, 3.1TL, FXi5, FXi3, 2-SVS 20-29, Yamaha, SVS center sub. Power:2-Monster HTS3500, Furman M-8D & RR16 Plus. 2-SAE 4000 X-overs, SAE 5000a noise reduction, MSB Link DAC III, MSB Powerbase, Behringer 2496, Monarchy DIP 24/96.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited August 2006
    ok cool.. i've just never run into any gear that uses that kind of connector i guess. glad you found a solution.
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