New NAD AVR Receivers??

boxxkar

Does anyone out there know if NAD plans to release any new AVR receivers sometime soon? I've been looking to upgrade my receiver and been looking at their product, but it seems that their current line have been out for a couple of years. Does this mean something new from them will be out soon?

Also, I have also read that NAD as had some quality issues. Can anyone say these are founded or not?

Based on the signitures on this forum, I know there are a few NAD owners out there and would like to know if there are any problem childs to avoid.

univera

I currently own the 773 but I haven't even put a cable to it yet, so I can't tell you anything about it from a sound perspective. I have a few more items to purchase before I set the whole thing up. However; I previously owned the 770 and absolutely loved it. This piece is essentially built with the same hardware that I can tell but adds more power, 7.1, some improvements as well as DTS and other modes.

Very musical as NAD promotes. I didn't lose much, if at all, in that department having an A/V receiver. As far as quality issues, there was one model of that previous line that had issues. All the others were sound to my knowledge. I have no idea about upcoming models. I do know you can find the 773 for $1000 used and perhaps $1200 new/refurbished. I don't have my finger on the pulse like many others, but the nice thing about the 773 is that it can be upgraded via the NAD website. This is a feature usually seen in very high end pieces but not as commonly in mid-fi. Read the reviews on this piece and you will be pleased. This was designed to be future proof, so who knows... http://www.ultimateavmag.com/avreceivers/1104nad/ http://www.avrev.com/equip/nadt773/index.html I'm not certain of the exact release date of the 773, but the second review was in Oct. 2004, so it must have been close to that time. Since it doesn't appear to be quite two years old and has upgradeable software, I'd think it isn't getting ready to be replaced.

If recently discussed HDMI video switching is important to you, this doesn't have it. Component is damn good quality and I'd rather hook a direct HDMI connection anyhow. Even a senior member of this site doesn't feel HDMI video switching is a big deal.

boxxkar

Thanks for the input. I've looked at the 773,763, and 753. Wide price range, but not as much when you find used ones. As previous posted, I was not sure if I would be missing any video quality by not having HDMI switching. Seems like its not that big of a deal. I would rather have the better sounding receiver.

Over the past couple of weeks I have found a used T773 ($1000) and a used Outlaw 1070 ($700). I am also watching a bid on a T752, which is the model before the T753, hence this post. I thought this one might be a cheaper way to experiment with NAD AVR, it's going for $130 right now with a day and a half to go. Not sure how the auction might end. I say experiment because my Dad owned an older NAD 2 channel with an older set of Polks, so I have an idea of how the combo sounds but its not much of an comparsion. Hard to get a good idea until it's in your own home.

Then I got to thinking that if NAD was getting ready to release a new line, maybe I should just wait until they do so their current line will be discounted more. Reality is I am not sure how much longer I can wait.

univera

Ah, didn't realize you posted the HDMI question. I went and checked my piece after reading that. It never crossed my mind before that either. BFD! I guess it depends on what's important to you. Music first was always important to me. That's why the NAD made sense. If you read their website, their AVR's are designed to even make music in HT sound ideal. I am now likely going to use this strictly for HT and get seperates for my 2 channel setup. But you won't be disappointed if you are looking for an all in one. I can't speak for the other models.

Make sure you stay away from the 761. I just checked Audioreview as I couldn't remember the model that had problems. That is the one. If you haven't been on that site, I would do so. The reviews are not professional, but they are certainly valid for the everyday person and I would think spot on for reliability over time. That is the only model with any issues. The 770 sells for about $400.00 now on Ebay, which is a great deal. You would need an outboard DTS processor if that's important. Still not bad considering it originally retailed for $1600.

boxxkar

Read the updated post. I think I have seen those reviews before, will read again just in case. I saw the 10/04 review and was not sure of the shelf life of these lines. I thought two years might have been the max. The T773 might be a little over kill for me, but at the used price it's not that much of a difference.

boxxkar

Thanks again for the input.

univera

Like I said, others are more in tune with day to day of the Hi-Fi world. This just doesn't seem to be an out of date piece. I know Spearitsound sells refurb 773's for $1250. I was lucky enough to get mine as an open box for $900.00 on Audiogon. Spearitsound I believe is an authorized NAD refurb seller. Most of those are probably just returned items or open box. Check them out. I also now see that the 763 is also upgradeable. The other models below it are not.

And in regards to shelf life, go on the assumption another model is coming out shortly. Are you willing to shell out top dollar that will be required for a brand new model? By the time prices on a new model drop to the kind of money you're considering ($1,000 or less), you will be ready to gnaw your leg off. The way I see it, I'd rather get the top of the line piece than buy a lesser but newer model that isn't much different. And, what you are really paying for on the models as you bump up is more power. Unless you plan on adding external power for some or all the channels and don't care about the on board amps, buying now seems to make sense, IMO.

boxxkar

That's a good point of reference, there are actually two T773's on Audiogon right now. Actually, I think one is on Audiogon and the other might be Ebay. Anyhow, they are both at $1000.

I wouldn't consider the newer model, but thought the current line might be discounted more if the new line came out.

timothyj

I have had some major problems with my T752. The sound, when functioning, was superior IMO to HK,denon,onkyo at the same price point. However, two channels went out due to the processor and there is lots of noise appearing as time goes on - clicks and white noise even after the unit is warm. I would STRONGLY suggest not buying an NAD AV reciever unless you get it with a two year warranty. If you gamble and get one used, getting it fixed will be very expensive and even then you won't have more than a 90 day warranty. Good luck. FYI I have an NAD 2 channel integrated (C352), a 542 cd player and have had zero issues with either and adore them. However, lots of people have had issues with the 752's. I spoke with three dealers who have dealt with many returns with them and the 762 & 742. They always say that the customers love the sound of them, when they work!

okiepolkie

I didn't read through all the posts on this thread, but one of my reps told me NAD is supposed to be coming out with a whole new line this fall. They are going to debut at CEDIA next month. From what I remember, they are going to be very competent models, and a few of them will have HDMI, although I don't know which ones at this point.

Hope this is relevant. If not, resume your regularly scheduled discussion.

boxxkar

It's good to get both the positive feedback and the negative feedback on the various models. I have tried to Google the various models and see what feedback I can find, so far it has been some good and some bad.

If there are any other industry folk out there that can atest the quality of the NAD AVR's I'd love to hear it.

univera

Here's a fairly new post on Audiogon, $900.00 or best offer. New baby forces sale. "Knocked my girlfriend up, so I gotta sell to pay for baby food and diapers." Hope he's not a member....:rolleyes:
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?miscrcvr&1161452220

Sounds like lowball city to me....I would think "best offer" allows for at least $50-100.00. $900.00 is fair asking price, anything less is doing great IMO, regardless of new models coming out. If you get it for $800.00 and it is in good cosmetic shape, I think you are doing well. It will take a bit for prices to drop significantly after the new models come out, and you seem to be itching....FWIT, the new owner of my T-770 is very pleased. He is an older fella and says this will probably be the last amp/receiver he ever owns.

When I bought my T-770, I still paid $700.00 for a brand new piece, and it was after the new model was already out. It took about a month or more from the time I originally started looking for prices to drop about $100.00 (from $800.00) (if I remember correctly.)

Other than HDMI switching, I am curious what they would add other than more power or sound improvements to a new model. This one seems to be pretty future proof at the moment, with better than average, real world power ratings. I pushed my 770 to the limits with soft clipping engaged many, many times without fail. It did me right. My novice two cents...

boxxkar

I've been looking at that ad, and actually last week it was at $1,000 then after a few days it was lowered to $900. I actually just signed in to try and get a better idea of what is a good asking price for used electronics. I might still post the question to find out (it would be interesting to hear how people respond).

Right now, I think I am between an Outlaw 1070 and this NAD T773. There is a used Outlaw on Audiogon for $700. (I just emailed the seller of the T773 with an offer).

Does your NAD have any ability to adjust for lip-sync or is this a non-issue? I read somewhere that this came into play with projectors and not TV's but wanted to double check.

pearsall001

I've had the T773 for over 2 yrs. now & I absolutely love it. It's got enough power to drive most speakers, is very musical in it's performance. The remote it comes with is probably the best out there as far as receivers go. I always liked NAD's no bells & whistles philosophy. If it's not needed it's not in their designs. As far as reliability issues go my unit has been an outstanding performer & will suit my needs for a few more years until other formats develope. Then I'll check out NAD's new gear.