Candela tube preamplifier

W WALDECKER
W WALDECKER Posts: 900
edited January 2008 in 2 Channel Audio
:) I just pulled the trigger on the new Odyssey Candela tube linestage preamplifier. the circuit design is based on a Mu follower concept.it uses ECC 82/12 AU7 tubes. the Candela is designed for ultrawideband frequency responce,linearity,low distortion and low output impedence.it operates in a class A single ended configuration with zero feedback. parts are from Sonicap, Vishay, Alps etc. i ordered mine with an Alps blue velvet remote volume control. it also has four sets of inputs and a HT bypass.i am not sure of the price yet ,i just told Klaus to build me one A.S.A.P. thanks....WCW III
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited August 2006
    Awesome! Congrats man. I really like the 12AU7 tube. Great sound and plenty of different ones to roll. So how long will the wait (torture?) be?
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited August 2006
    :) Hey organ, i dont know how long it will take but i think the waiting list is pretty long.Alex at Odyssey voiced the Candela using a pair of mono extreme SEs just like mine so i think the synergy with this preamp in my system should be really sweet ! thanks....WCW III
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited August 2006
    I'm sure it will definitely be worth the wait. I mean, you're getting a pre voiced for your amps....Damn! Keep us posted and show some pics when it's ready. I'm very interested to see how this pre amp is going to look.
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited August 2006
    Good move WCW!! Let us know if you find it to be an improvement over some of the previous 12AX7 based preamps you have used. I might have to try one myself if it is.

    Just for the tease factor..................
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    2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited August 2006
    Do you have a shot of the unit?
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2006
    You can save money on tubes with a mu-follower design.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited August 2006
    Yea, I'd like to see some pics as well.
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    edited August 2006
    How much??
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited August 2006
    Nothing like selling out to one manufacturer.

    Mark, you hit that nail. Details Sir William, details.

    Thanks,
    RCG WWE IXVIII
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • Wardsweb
    Wardsweb Posts: 935
    edited August 2006
    Pics in Klaus' forum: http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=30718.0
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited August 2006
    RuSsMaN wrote:
    Nothing like selling out to one manufacturer.

    Mark, you hit that nail. Details Sir William, details.

    Thanks,
    RCG WWE IXVIII
    And what oh "enlightened one" does selling out to one manufacturer entail ? please share your vast experience and wisdom on this subject with everyone here at Club Polk . thanks....WCW III
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,411
    edited August 2006
    Joey_V wrote:
    How much??

    895.00
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    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited August 2006
    Sounds like a steal for $895.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited August 2006
    Value from Odyssey is only rivaled by SVS, in my experience. Great gear for notta lotta $$$.:D
    HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable

    2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited August 2006
    Did that include the remote, I wonder?
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited August 2006
    ND13 wrote:
    Did that include the remote, I wonder?

    I don't know if the remote and HT bypass are part of that pricing. Klaus is famous for allowing mods and add-ons for just a little more. He will do just about anything for the customer to sell a piece.
    HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable

    2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited August 2006
    hoosier21 wrote:
    895.00
    Hey Russ, i think the projected price was eight ninety five but when Klaus took a hard look at cost increases on the materials i am pretty sure that the Candela sells for somewhere around a Grand and the remote option is maybe another $300.00 more but i never bothered to ask.great build quality and a 20 year warranty and the best customer service in the business makes it hard for me to resist. i have been thru five preamplifiers in the past three years and i think number six probably wont be the last....thanks...WCW III
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited August 2006
    Zero wrote:
    I recall Klaus mentioning a $1200 price tag.
    i just back tracked Klaus's posts and on April 11 he posted that he could not afford to sell one for $895 and that the Candela would sell for $1000 even.Klaus does not have a factory and there are no shelves full of amps or preamps .everything he makes is built by hand one at a time.and if you were to want special parts installed like different capacitors say maybe blackgates for example, he would install them for the cost difference while he is building it.$1000 is cheap in my opinion when you consider what you get for your money. thanks....WCW III
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited August 2006
    Won't be long ,I'm going to venture into the tube market...this looks like a great place to start.

    Beautiful piece of gear WWIII
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  • ninerbj
    ninerbj Posts: 870
    edited August 2006
    There is a very tight following in the Klause/Odyssey camp. So tight that they have come to expect problems with blinders and a shrud of the shoulders.
    Although Odyssey as a whole has recieved numerous 5 star ratings for their value, a little deeper dig will prove that Klaus gear is very prone to problems only to be masked by Klaus' great customer service.
    Many high end manufactures have great customer service as well...you just don't hear about it as much as Odyssey because most of these amps and pre-amps never break down or run into problems where you have no choice but to rely on their customer service.

    Oh, I almost forgot.
    Hey Russ...one of Klauses kool-aid drinkers called you out. Man up!
    "she had the body of Venus, with arms."
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited August 2006
    Remote and HT Bypass is extra...

    My eyes are deep into this one...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited August 2006
    9'er,

    I don't sweat the small stuff. I was actually excited when William got the BAT in the mix and stepped up to the high fidelity plate. I don't doubt the Candella peice sounds decent, but that damn glowing tube window (LED enhanced no doubt). Klaus should be ashamed. Screams cheesy Asian grey-market, regardless if it is or not.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited August 2006
    RuSsMaN wrote:
    9'er,

    I don't sweat the small stuff. I was actually excited when William got the BAT in the mix and stepped up to the high fidelity plate. I don't doubt the Candella peice sounds decent, but that damn glowing tube window (LED enhanced no doubt). Klaus should be ashamed. Screams cheesy Asian grey-market, regardless if it is or not.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Hey Russman, in regard to your keen observation, i think Luxman beat the cheesy Asian grey market by a few decades .Klaus would no doubt care less about your opinion.he makes his own way in this world. in other words he does not work for his Mommy which allows him to hold the world record for making posts on Club Polk! .thanks....WCW III
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited August 2006
    pics man, pics.

    Congrats on the purchase.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited August 2006
    You're a funny little man William - sorry my opinion doesn't gel with yours. I never said anything about build or sound (actually the opposite), just it's appearance and the constant ravings about Klaus, Klaus, Klaus. Again, my opinion. It's your gear, if you dig it, rock on - but don't expect the world to smother you in accolades because of it.

    What does a family business and post count have to with an ugly preamp? I know the answer, nothing - which is exactly what is in your big bag.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited August 2006
    Agreed, there is no free lunch in any venue. While there is gear that performs above it's price point and there are true giant killers out there.......there is very little out there that demands blind devotion.



    BDT
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited August 2006
    I think Klaus is a great guy trying to do his customers right...

    But it goes over board when you own his amps, speakers, preamps, cables - thats just...well...boring...

    I could easilly see myself owning the amp and preamp. But - all of the same brand is a yawner for me...

    I personally like the look of this pre...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited August 2006
    Doesn't matter how good his stuff is! It'll sound like crap until you get the cable risers into the system :D
    DKG999
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    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited August 2006
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:
    I think Klaus is a great guy trying to do his customers right...

    But it goes over board when you own his amps, speakers, preamps, cables - thats just...well...boring...

    I could easilly see myself owning the amp and preamp. But - all of the same brand is a yawner for me...

    I personally like the look of this pre...
    I admit i am Guilty as charged, but everyone who has ever listened to my two channel rig is amazed at how good it sounds. i aspire to and will own other high end gear. i am in the market for an Audio Aero Prima CD Player, Audio Physic loudspeakers and maybe a BAT VK 30 SE preamplifier. the gear i am using now has great synergy and i didnt have to take out a second morgage to pay for it.i also have never had a problem one with any piece of Odyssey gear with the exception of a midbass driver in one of my Loreleis which was made by Scanspeak in Denmark.i am very happy with my system and if you were to listen to it i think you would know why. thanks....WCW III
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited August 2006
    I have no doubt that your system owns WCW...

    But I personally couldnt see owning all the same brand all the way around ya know?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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