Hearing loss...

dylan
dylan Posts: 453
edited April 2 in Clubhouse Archives
Thought this was an interesting article. It did make me stop and think... during my daily commute, a lot of times I turn the music up quite a bit to overcome road noise. Or turn up my ipod on the plane to hear anything over the rumble.

"Even at younger ages, we lose our ability to hear high frequencies first, and different sorts of damage cause different gaps in our perception of frequencies. This is a little scary from a music enjoyment perspective, since it creates perceived harmonic distortion. Even if you can still hear your favorite music, it may not sound the same, or as good."
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  • wallstreet
    wallstreet Posts: 1,405
    edited August 2006
    Yep, 20KHZ is out of my hearing range. Heck, even my pre-teen kids can't be sure that they hear anything. Tweeters that go to 25KHZ don't impress me one bit.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited August 2006
    BUT just hold on a second. Tweeters that go to 25kHz are a plus just like those tweeters that go up to 30kHz...those higher frequencies affect the way those 'lower' frequencies act, thus making a sonic difference even though you can't actually hear those 'high' frequencies.

    Or so that's how the theory goes.
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  • wallstreet
    wallstreet Posts: 1,405
    edited August 2006
    Yep, I'm not impressed with that argument either. That's like saying ultraviolet light impacts the light that you can see. So all video reproduction should include ultraviolet light measurements. But then again, I could be a bonehead that doesn't know the first thing about acoustic theory, hehe.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited August 2006
    wallstreet wrote:
    But then again, I could be a bonehead that doesn't know the first thing about acoustic theory, hehe.
    I know I am! :D
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,732
    edited August 2006
    to say something you cant hear...is going to alter the sound of anything sounds nuts...

    Thats like saying just because a tree fell and you werent there to see or hear it fall makes its fall that much louder!

    OMG...like...no way!

    But none the less, I like the advertisement - UP TO 70KHZ!!! w0000t
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited August 2006
    I just had my hearing checked a work. I've got 50 percent of my 4-5K left. Guess I need to boost the midrange a bit.
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  • univera
    univera Posts: 848
    edited August 2006
    Whachoo say Sonny???
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  • cheddar
    cheddar Posts: 2,390
    edited August 2006
    Reminds me of the mosquito ring thread...

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41921&highlight=mosquito+ring

    Some people could still hear it in their 30s and beyond even after loud music exposure. Just don't turn up the volume 'cause what you can't hear may not make a difference to you, but it does to your speakers...
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  • krabby5
    krabby5 Posts: 923
    edited August 2006
    I noticed awhile ago when things are REAL quiet, I have a constant ringing in my ears..I'm just used to it, now

    Thank you Motley Crue and the other metal acts of the 80's:D
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,194
    edited August 2006
    krabby5 wrote:
    I noticed awhile ago when things are REAL quiet, I have a constant ringing in my ears..I'm just used to it, now

    Thank you Motley Crue and the other metal acts of the 80's:D

    You should sue 'em :D . Hell, if you can sue Mickey D's for hot coffee, why not a rock group for hearing loss. :p

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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited August 2006
    cheddar wrote:
    Reminds me of the mosquito ring thread...

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41921&highlight=mosquito+ring

    Some people could still hear it in their 30s and beyond even after loud music exposure. Just don't turn up the volume 'cause what you can't hear may not make a difference to you, but it does to your speakers...
    Wow, that's really interesting. I'm closing in on 19, but I heard it on the computer here at school instantly. It's a weird sound...it's like it's not originating from any particular source...it's just...there.

    BTW, I also didn't find it that annoying. Just 'different'.
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  • KrazyMofo24
    KrazyMofo24 Posts: 1,210
    edited August 2006
    I just turned 21, and I'm pissed right now because I can only hear up to 14.9khz the ringtone is 17khz.
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