Backup issues

Willow
Willow Posts: 11,040
edited April 2 in Clubhouse Archives
Recently when attempting to make copies, I am getting quite a bit of burn errors. I am using Nero. Would this be more related to the disks I am using or the software or even the burner. For example I attempted to make a backup of a dvd I got an burn error, tried a different source, another dvd and it worked fine. Any info would greatly be appreciated.

JF
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  • Polk65
    Polk65 Posts: 1,405
    edited August 2006
    If possible, test Sonic or Roxio RecordNow (v7.2+ for dual layer) and Verbatim blanks. You will get better results unless your DVD writer is crapping out. If you think it's your DVD writer at fault, try switching it to a different branch of plugs from your power supply before tossing it.

    From my experience and reading forums, NERO does not do a good job of writing DVD's.
  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,040
    edited August 2006
    Sorry is test Sonic or Roxio RecordNow software or are they blanks ?
  • jcaut
    jcaut Posts: 1,849
    edited August 2006
    You mean they fail out during the burn process, as opposed to just not being able to play them back properly? That sounds like a problem with the drive, or the computer. Could possibly be the discs- Verbatim discs are pretty consistently good. Media that's made in Japan tends to be higher quality than that made in Taiwan. CMC Magnetics is one of the largest manufacturers of blank optical discs but their quality is not the greatest. They're packaged as many different brands, so if you buy discs made in Taiwan, there's a good chance you'll get CMC discs in the package. Discs made in Japan are likely T-Y. Maxell "high grade" (regular Maxell is usually CMC) and most Fujifilm, along with Verbatim are the blanks I would look for.

    I've never had a problem with Nero, but YMMV. You can use the Nero Info Tool to check the manufacturer ID of the blank discs you're using.

    Jason
  • Polk65
    Polk65 Posts: 1,405
    edited August 2006
    If it fails while burning, search NERO's preferences for buffer and change it from auto to the largest setting. This sometimes fixes the problem.

    RecordNow has been sold through several companies over the years based upon the Prassi burning engine.

    http://www.digitalriver.com still has the previous less bloated version 7.3 available.
    http://www.roxio.com sells a newer version of RecordNow that looks quite bloated.

    From what I understand, Verbatim blank media layers are created differently than Memorex and others.
    Verbatim blanks are created sequentially and result with better burns.

    Your quesiton is multiple choice. ;) First I would try Verbatim's. Next another software and finally question your writer.
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited August 2006
    ive been using dvd shrink and what happends lately is new dvd's and all disney dvd's seem to be protected and it go's halfway and stops or screws up.. its the dvd IMO.. mine has done the same thing lately yet, burns other dvd's with no problem..
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited August 2006
    faster100 wrote:
    ive been using dvd shrink and what happends lately is new dvd's and all disney dvd's seem to be protected and it go's halfway and stops or screws up.. its the dvd IMO.. mine has done the same thing lately yet, burns other dvd's with no problem..

    I use DVD Fab Decrypter for those DVDs. Basically copies the disc, in its entirety, to your hard drive, removing encryption. Then you use DVDShrink, but instead of "open disc' you "open files" and point it to the directory where you copied the disc.

    As for Willow's problem, I seriously doubt it's the software. It's one of the drive, the blanks, or some kind of general computer issue.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
  • Polk65
    Polk65 Posts: 1,405
    edited August 2006
    I thought this was a general recording issue.

    If this is about copyrighted material, it's not appropriate here.
  • read-alot
    read-alot Posts: 812
    edited August 2006
    Polk65 wrote:
    I thought this was a general recording issue.

    If this is about copyrighted material, it's not appropriate here.



    You are allowed by law one copy.

    Willow it's probably your blanks. I have had the same problems and made a few coasters. Just as mentioned before look for Japan disks to record your one copy.
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited August 2006
    When I'm backed up, I have found that natural laxatives to have the best results.:D
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,040
    edited August 2006
    Polk65 wrote:
    I thought this was a general recording issue.

    If this is about copyrighted material, it's not appropriate here.

    isn't everything copyright-ed these days...

    OK I think it's realted to my disks, I will try another brand I bought 100 phillips and come to think of the other brands never gave me this much trouble.
  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,040
    edited August 2006
    ND13 wrote:
    When I'm backed up, I have found that natural laxatives to have the best results.:D


    Where do I feed my computer the laxatives ?
  • read-alot
    read-alot Posts: 812
    edited August 2006
    I have made copies of my home movies for years. Sony betamax was my first recorder. I think they are still fighting the "Betamax Precedent" when it comes to recording. Hah... the Canadian laws may differ and the US laws have probably changed but as long as you are not selling copies I don't think you have anything to be concerned about.

    BTW.. how is the pain? I have not had to take anything stronger than Advil this summer.
    polkaudio SRS (rdo194 x 8)
    Dodd ELP (separate power supply)
    JC 1 blocks ( strapped )
    Rega Apollo
    MIT (speaker cables) Outlaw (ICs)

    polkaudio SDA2(rdo194x4) (front) polkaudio CRS (rdo194x4)(rear) polkaudio 400i (center)
    B&K 505
    Samsung LCD
    VIP 622
    HSU STF-2
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited August 2006
    Willow wrote:
    Where do I feed my computer the laxatives ?


    Where else...the floppy drive!!!:eek:
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,040
    edited August 2006
    computers still have floppy's
  • Polk65
    Polk65 Posts: 1,405
    edited August 2006
    This reminded me of an old mod that I have been wanting to test for awhile. There is a way to change the identification written to DVD+R, DVD+RW and DVD+R DL (Dual Layer) on many computer DVD writers to make them appear to be DVD-ROM media. DVD+RW (ReWritable) can be changed back and forth after writing. This mod is supposed to increase compatibility with standalone DVD players.

    My first successful test today was with a DVD+RW which will now play in even my oldest standalone CD/DVD-R player that up until now has refused to play DVD+R, DVD+RW and DVD+R DL discs. The next test will be with a DVD+R DL.

    Google your DVD drive and "bitsetting" to check if there is a utility available to mod your writer.

    Booktype/Bitsetting info:

    http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/150

    http://www.signvideo.com/btst-d.htm

    update: I set booktype to DVD-ROM and recorded a DVD+R DL (Dual Layer) disc. The amazing result for me is the disc works perfectly in my 4 year old standalone Panasonic CD/DVD-R player. It even switches to the second layer! As an additional test I tried the disc in a 3 year old JVC CD/DVD+/-R standalone player which has consistently choked at the second layer change. This also worked perfectly so I am now going to burn any future DVD+R *$@# discs with video content set to booktype DVD-ROM. YMMV.

    Willow, have you tried recording your phillips discs at a lower speed? I had some *sic* Memorex that failed at 6x but worked at 4x.