New HT Fronts on the Way...

Early B.
Early B. Posts: 7,900
edited August 2006 in Speakers
Since I'm placing less emphasis on HT, I decided to purchase a pair of Athena AS-F2.2 floorstanding speakers. They are inexpensive and should work fine for HT only. If I recall, SteveinAZ liked them a lot. I'm hoping they'll look decent, too. The WAF didn't fully appreciate the 48" tall Buggs that I had before.
HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

"God grooves with tubes."
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited August 2006
    They are supposed to be a good all around speaker for the masses.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited August 2006
    Yeah, I just hope the tweeter isn't too bright as is the case with most low cost speakers marketed to the masses.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited August 2006
    Athena's are very bright! They damn near compete with the entry level Klipsch IMO.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited August 2006
    Toxis wrote:
    Athena's are very bright! They damn near compete with the entry level Klipsch IMO.

    If that's true, I'll return them without hesitation.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • KrazyMofo24
    KrazyMofo24 Posts: 1,210
    edited August 2006
    Their pretty popular on other forums.
    Setup:

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    PC: Vienna Acoustics Haydn Grand, Cambridge Azure 650A v2 , Peachtree iDAC, Denon DVD-3800BDCI

  • adam2434
    adam2434 Posts: 995
    edited August 2006
    I owned the original F2s, B1s, center and surrounds. They were good for the money, especially for HT. They are bright, which wasn't so bad for HT.

    However, for some music they could almost literally run me out of the room with their brightness in the upper registers of horns and electric guitar, and some vocals. Piercing is the word that comes to mind.

    I read all the reviews comparing the F2s to $2-3K speakers, and thought I could use them for HT and 2 ch and that they might have a chance to sound as good or better than my LS90s. Well, I sold the Athenas and built a HT around the LS90s when I consolidated my HT and 2 ch after finishing my basement.

    All in all, I still think they are a good value, but were a step backwards for me in 2 ch. For HT, I could live with them.
    5.1 and 2.0 ch Basement Media Room: Outlaw 975/Emotiva DC-1/Rotel RB-1582 MKII/Rotel RB-1552/Audiosource Amp 3/Polk LS90, CS400i, FX500i/Outlaw X-12, LFM-1/JVD DLA-HD250/Da-Lite 100" HCCV/Sony ES BDP/Sonos Connect. DC-1/RB-1582 MKII/Sonos Connect also feed Polk 7C in garage or Dayton IO655 on patio.
    2.1 ch Basement Gym: Denon AVR-2807/Klipsch Forte I or NHT SB2/JBL SUB 550P x 2/Chromecast Audio.
    2.0 ch Living Room: Rotel RX-1052/Emotiva DC-1/Klipsch RF-7 III/Sony ES BDP/LG 65" LED.
    2.0 ch Semi-portable: Klipsch Powergate/NHT SB3/Chromecast Audio.
    Kitchen: Sonos Play5.
  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited August 2006
    I used to have both the Athena bookshelves (see sig) and RTi 6. The Athenas were brighter than the Rti 6 and were inferior in both bass and midrange. I bought them both online as a boxing day sale. I really didn't care for either of them. Sold the Rti 6 along with an AVR and figured I would leave the Athenas in the rear of HT setup until I see where my front end goes and then match them accordingly.

    Mike
    Modwright SWL 9.0 SE (6Sons Audio Thunderbird PC with Oyaide 004 terminations)
    Consonance cd120T
    Consonance Cyber 800 tube monoblocks (6Sons Audio Thunderbird PC's with Oyaide 004 terminations)
    Usher CP 6311

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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited August 2006
    Does anyone know the differences between the F2 (original) and the F2.2? I'm hoping Athena addressed the brightness issue on the revised version.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • adam2434
    adam2434 Posts: 995
    edited August 2006
    The new series is lower in weight and uses neodymium magnets. The weight loss can't be explained by the magnets alone, so looks like they went with thinner MDF. I haven't read any head-to-head comparisons, but I wouldn't consider them improved over the 1st series and doubt they tamed the brightness.
    5.1 and 2.0 ch Basement Media Room: Outlaw 975/Emotiva DC-1/Rotel RB-1582 MKII/Rotel RB-1552/Audiosource Amp 3/Polk LS90, CS400i, FX500i/Outlaw X-12, LFM-1/JVD DLA-HD250/Da-Lite 100" HCCV/Sony ES BDP/Sonos Connect. DC-1/RB-1582 MKII/Sonos Connect also feed Polk 7C in garage or Dayton IO655 on patio.
    2.1 ch Basement Gym: Denon AVR-2807/Klipsch Forte I or NHT SB2/JBL SUB 550P x 2/Chromecast Audio.
    2.0 ch Living Room: Rotel RX-1052/Emotiva DC-1/Klipsch RF-7 III/Sony ES BDP/LG 65" LED.
    2.0 ch Semi-portable: Klipsch Powergate/NHT SB3/Chromecast Audio.
    Kitchen: Sonos Play5.
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited August 2006
    Received the speakers today via FedEx. Both speakers suffered significant shipping damage, including a crack in the tweeter housing, so they're going back to audioadvisor. One of them had no spikes. I hooked them up anyway and they sounded horrible. They are the worst speakers I ever heard in my room. Extremely bright and no bass whatsoever. (They are NOT rated at 93 dB sensitivity as claimed!) One of the speakers rattled at loud volumes.

    I also took an opportunity to peek inside of them before I boxed them back up. No acoustic foam at all. Mostly particle board construction. Plastic everywhere. These Athenas are all hype.

    Lessons learned:

    1. Don't ever buy cheap speakers again, no matter what the reviewers and consumers say about them.

    2. Whenever speakers are shipped, prepare for damage.

    3. Don't be in a hurry to patch your system together. Take your time, save your money, and get what you want. No need to settle for inferior gear.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited August 2006
    Early...

    If you are looking for HT dude...

    You need to buy my DTs, now. lol

    They will rock your socks for HT and they are not very bright at all...

    And I dont know if you liked my enclosures I built, but they are hardly cheaply built - 250" of bracing my friend. 250 INCHES! lol

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35888

    Of course, if you're interested you can shoot me an email at vr3mxdmicblce2k7@gmail.com

    Would include original enclosures and the "book" on the DTs consisting of crossover diagrahms, enclosure specs...

    They have like 350 in mods alone...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2006
    If nothing else I think you should bring them to PF6

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited August 2006
    disneyjoe7 wrote:
    If nothing else I think you should bring them to PF6

    I am - well if I can locate some boxes
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited August 2006
    Early B. - Did you get rid of your Buggtussels? I hope not...

    Man, I want those DT's everytime they're mentioned! Stop talking about 'em! Stop, stop, I say!
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    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited August 2006
    At this point, I'm either gonna keep doing what I do (move the Taylos into the HT room every time we watch a movie) or go bookshelf.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited August 2006
    audiobliss wrote:
    Early B. - Did you get rid of your Buggtussels? I hope not...

    Yep. Sold the Buggs to help finance the re-purchase of the Taylos and to re-establish a separate 2-channel system. The Buggs were awesome for HT, but they were HUGE! Low WAF on 'em.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited August 2006
    Early B. wrote:
    At this point, I'm either gonna keep doing what I do (move the Taylos into the HT room every time we watch a movie) or go bookshelf.

    Changed my mind already. Decided to purchase a high end center channel speaker and use the Bugg Circas as the fronts (temporarily). Stay tuned.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited August 2006
    Sorry the Athenas didnt work out. I never cared for those speakers either.
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited August 2006
    Early B. wrote:
    Lessons learned:

    1. Don't ever buy cheap speakers again

    3. Take your time, save your money, and get what you want. No need to settle for inferior gear.

    Price does mean a damn thing.
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited August 2006
    I remember thinking favorably of Athenas, but that was around 4 years ago, and many decent to great speakers ago.

    Sorry to hear about the hassles.
  • Doc99
    Doc99 Posts: 100
    edited August 2006
    Should have went Polk!! Anyway...I had many speakers shipped from Audiuadvisor and others, and NEVER had a problem with shipping damage. Now you got me nervous, as my LSi9 are in transit right now. I currentl;y have the Athena AS-300 sub, and love it. It was the earlier one when they were still being manufactured in Canada. Built well, heavy, sounds great, especially with music(that's why I got the smaller one). But yeah. I am surprised the Athenas were not too good. People over at AVS rave about them.
    No matter what....you can only build a speaker so good for little money.
  • Doc99
    Doc99 Posts: 100
    edited August 2006
    Early B. wrote:
    Received the speakers today via FedEx. Both speakers suffered significant shipping damage, including a crack in the tweeter housing, so they're going back to audioadvisor. One of them had no spikes. I hooked them up anyway and they sounded horrible. They are the worst speakers I ever heard in my room. Extremely bright and no bass whatsoever. (They are NOT rated at 93 dB sensitivity as claimed!) One of the speakers rattled at loud volumes.

    I also took an opportunity to peek inside of them before I boxed them back up. No acoustic foam at all. Mostly particle board construction. Plastic everywhere. These Athenas are all hype.

    Lessons learned:

    1. Don't ever buy cheap speakers again, no matter what the reviewers and consumers say about them.

    2. Whenever speakers are shipped, prepare for damage.

    3. Don't be in a hurry to patch your system together. Take your time, save your money, and get what you want. No need to settle for inferior gear.
    I do think that floor standers are more vulnerable to shipping. They are usually not packed real well(top and botton styrofoam) and the rest is not protected. Want some inexpensive-well built floorstanders, check out the new Onix XLS-S. Should be out soon.
  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited August 2006
    Doc... the 9s are packed well and are compact enough that they wont make it a point to drop it around. Dont worry... you'll be enjoying Vifa tweeter sounds soon...
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2006
    I once had Polk speakers shipping damaged also, so even these could be packed better. IMHO

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited August 2006
    I should mention that these speakers were poorly packed. They were double boxed, but there was no packing material between the two boxes!!! I'm surprised audioadvisor sent them out of the door like that. Also, the packing inside the main box was insufficient. There were pieces of broken foam throughout the box.

    I should also mention that these speakers were listed as "demos." However, I've purchased demo speakers from audioadvisor in the past and they arrived brand spankin' new. The Athenas must have been acutal demos because the serial numbers were not consecutive and one box was missing two of the spikes.

    I've had a string a bad luck with receiving floorstanding speakers. The last two pair have been damaged during shipping. I'll still do it, but with my most recent purchase, I paid a few extra bucks so the seller could get the speaker professionally packed by the shipper. If they are damaged, I hope the shipper will be more likely to honor the claim if they packed it.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2006
    My Rt800i speaker was damaged by UPS when it looked like it was tossed into truck, hitting a wheel hub. Like yours Early they where packed at the top and bottom, nothing in the middle to support this ruff housing shipping. Crutchfield made good on it and reshipped one repacking with some form in the middle, I received this ok. But overall understand why some here will not ship speakers, and insist that they are picked up.


    Sorry your shipment when badly and overall you weren't happy with purchase.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited August 2006
    Early,

    Hope your new speakers arrive in better condition than the Athenas did.
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R