Why dont more movies come out in DTS and THX

Home Theatre

I bought a new receiver for DTS and have probably only used it 10 times since Jan.

RuSsMaN

1. THX isn't a format.

B. There are a TON of DTS encoded films

D. What's wrong with good ole' Dolby Digital?

bobman1235

THX is just a certification process, and a dubious one at that.

As for why more DVDs aren't in DTS, I think there's two reasons :
1. Most people don't care
2. It takes up more room on teh disc, which the market dictates would be better used for more **** extra features that no one ACTUALLY cares about.

That being said, there are plenty of DTS DVDs out there, if you know where to look.

Demiurge

DTS is expensive, and as Bobman said it's a slightly larger space sucker on the disc. I wish more were DTS, some say it doesn't matter, but I prefer it. I'll be more likely to buy a movie if it has a DTS soundtrack than one that doesn't.

AndyGwis

After falling in love with some DTS tracks, I would just type DTS into a company's DVD search bar (like Amazon, BB, etc.). That way, you can see which DVDs are DTS encoded and can either order online, or make a list for yourself of movies to buy/rent.

reeltrouble1

I just rented some movie last weekend that had TV commercials on the disc, I would much rather watch those than have some old Sound Track to pick from.

I cant really tell much diff between DD and DTS but I pick DTS if available just for the sake of having something different. I am pretty sure the DTS molecules excite my receiver so it sounds better.

There was that one movie with hot chick Beckingsdale the first Underworld, man I think that was DTS with a very hotly recorded bass track.

RT1

AndyGwis

I started to rent movies pretty much solely based on DTS for a while. . . some good ones that I ended up buying (like Bourne Identity), but it also led to some very bad rentals, like Domino.

Not even Kiera is worth spending 90 minutes for that bucket of steaming reel.

bobman1235

She was pretty hot in that though...

Unfortunately it also gave me seizures.

mutelight

RuSsMaN wrote:

D. What's wrong with good ole' Dolby Digital?

Although I like DD5.1 and think its a great format it is insanely compressed. 13:1 compression ratio and a maximum bit rate of 448 kbit/s vs DTS which is 4:1. Try creating a 5.1 mix then encoding it to DD5.1 it will crush your audio while DTS leaves a lot more of it intact. Both formats use perceptual encoding however you are left with significantly more of your original audio from the mix with DTS. Then there is Meridian Lossless (MLP) which is the most ideal but the file sizes are huge.

Early B.

I used to think DTS was da' bomb. Now I think it's usually over the top -- louder and brighter than DD. Depends on the DVD, though. Some of them are mixed well, while others aren't. Often DD sounds as good or better than DTS, IMO.

mutelight

Early B. wrote:

I used to think DTS was da' bomb. Now I think it's usually over the top -- louder and brighter than DD. Depends on the DVD, though. Some of them are mixed well, while others aren't. Often DD sounds as good or better than DTS, IMO.

That's why if post house does a good job on the consumer mixes they will have different ones done before they output them to a masterlink since each codec compresses the audio differently. Some places will have one master mix which they encode to the different codecs, which in the case you are talking about, they are probably overcompensated for the DD mix to make sure all the detail comes through making the DTS playback brighter due to its higher accuracy.

We just got a Neyrinck encoder for DD and for DTS and when you encode your session to DD and look at your regions in Pro Tools even just visual representation of the waveforms in your regions you can see the signal has been totally crushed whereas with DTS it is significantly reduced.

reeltrouble1

Which means 2-channel Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok I am beginning to buy off on the 3-channel thing if miked appropriately.

RT1

doggie750

It's subjective.............IMO...Some DD is better than DTS...vice versa. IT ALL DEPENDS who makes the DVD/ EG: Diff MOVIES have diff qualities.;) ........!!!!

AndyGwis

I think I just assumed DTS was better or more dynamic because it was louder. I'm sure if I turned a DD movie up from -25 to -20db, it would sound about the same as DTS running at -25db, for example.

bobman1235

I believe DTS has a higher sampling rate, ie more bits per second of audio, and therefore has the CAPABILITY to be more accurate and clear.

Whether it actually is completely depends, like others said, on who did the mixing.

mutelight

bobman1235 wrote:

I believe DTS has a higher sampling rate, ie more bits per second of audio, and therefore has the CAPABILITY to be more accurate and clear.

Whether it actually is completely depends, like others said, on who did the mixing.

DTS does in fact have a higher sample rate, whether or not the studio chooses to use it in a mix is up to how much space they have on the DVD. DD5.1 is limited to 48Khz sample rate where DTS can be 48khz or 96Khz. On top of that DTS has a bit rate between 1.5Mbit/s and 786Kbps where DD5.1 is limited 448Kbps maximum transfer rate. As I said before DD5.1 is roughly a 13:1 compression vs the 4:1 compression of DTS.