Help me decide if I really need a DAC?

pearsall001

Ah!! the audio bug might be biting again. My present 2 channel system consists of: A Conrad Johnson PV14L tube preamp, Van Alstine OmegaStar440EX amp, Consonance CD120 upsampling CD player, & AAD 2001 monitors. Now don't get me wrong, I really do like the way my system sounds, but it's just been buging me about this DAC issue. Do you think a DAC would benefit me & in what way? What are your experiences? What DAC's have you used & how did they perform? My budget is maxed out at $1800. Hopefully your info will allow me to make an educated decision.

madmax

Can you get one to try out? Maybe a store that will let you try something with the intention of buying? No one can tell whether or not any given dac is going to sound better than what you have unless they have the same setup. Even at that many people tend to hear a better sound just because they paid extra for it. You really need one you can easily sell for the same price (used) or one you can try at home and be able to return.
madmax

organ

I agree with Madmax. It's too hard to tell until you can demo one in your system. I had some Audio Alchemy DAC's and jitter reducers a few years back. Very good sound for the $.

reeltrouble1

I thought that Benchmark DAC came with a 30 day trial? SteveAz raves about his.

I have used a Parasound 2000 and enjoy hearing what it does to the sound of a low end player I have.

RT1

I-SIG

If I hadn't already invested the money in my Bel Canto when I got the Rotel, I would have been very disappointed in comparison of the 2. Is the Bel Canto better? I'd still say yes, but the margin is quite narrow and one I would live for the time being. Will the Bel Canto help me down the road once I upgrade the tweeters and amp? Hopefully.

Wes

steveinaz

Don't expect to be "wowed" by an external DAC; at least not right off the bat. The improvements are subtle if you're already running a good CDP. Some of the improvements I noted were:

- More slam, dynamics
- More "body" to the music, better foundation
- Soundstaging that makes my speakers disappear w/good recordings
- No more digital glare
- Dead quiet background

Keep in mind my entire system is solid state. Give the Benchmark DAC1 a spin, if you don't like it, return it or sell it. They fetch a good used price. It's available now in both silver and black.

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue26/benchmark_dac1.htm
http://www.benchmarkmedia.com/news/audio_critic_review/index.html
http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/benchmark_dac1.htm
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0405/benchmarkdac1.htm
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/benchmark/dac1.html
http://www.odysseyaudiosg.com/digital.htm

dkg999

You need one. There, wasn't that simple

LuSh

Try a museatex bitstream. They pop up every now and again used for very cheap prices. You can send them to be modded after for usually $300-$400 dollars. The unit is very analog sounding and has been compared to state of the art digital from the likes of Emm Labs, dCs and Wadia and usually very close if not beating out the mentioned.

The key to the DAC was the filters used and re-arrangement of the power supply after updates. Type in Museatex Bidat or Bitstream on google and enjoy the reading.

Shizelbs

Buy one with a good return policy or snag on off the 'gon, try it, demo it, resell it if you don't like it. If you can afford it and indeed the return policy is good, I would personally try the Benchmark.

faster100

I think dac's are for when you have nothing else to upgrade.. so if that isn't the case, id look for other more obvious upgrade paths.. or spend the money on a better player...

I think they were made for people who love thier transport but want to upgrade the dacs only, hence an external version. Myself, id look for a better player..

steveinaz

faster100 wrote:

I think dac's are for when you have nothing else to upgrade.. so if that isn't the case, id look for other more obvious upgrade paths.. or spend the money on a better player...

I think they were made for people who love thier transport but want to upgrade the dacs only, hence an external version. Myself, id look for a better player..

I agree, save things like DAC's and exotic cables for last; get your base system up to snuff first.

I-SIG

steveinaz wrote:

I agree, save things like DAC's and exotic cables for last; get your base system up to snuff first.

Guys,

His system ain't anything to laugh at if you look at his sig.

Wes

dorokusai

I'll echo what was mentioned by Madmax....There's 3-4 that you can try almost risk free from places like Audio Advisor & Music Direct. The return policy for both is solid and pain free. If none of those flip up your skirt, you have one thing you can erase from your list.

madmax

My AudioNote DAC 1.1Kit was quite a leap over my built in DACs. What it did was add a lot of dynamics, an extra half octave of bass and an overall higher quality sound. It really seemed to take control over my system whereas the built in ones just seemed to play along. Day and night sort of differences. I've had only one other outboard DAC and although it sounded better than the built in ones you really had to listen to a lot of music to decide it was any different. Order one up and if it doesn't do something for you send it back. It would be worth the effort to try one and if it really mates well with your system you will never look back.
madmax