Power-Save anyone heard of this / using it?

disneyjoe7

In my constant pursuit of paying the Electric company less. This seems to be something that started in the Baltimore area, so is anyone using one. If so would you recommend?


www.power-save.com

disneyjoe7

Well I will order it today, surprise no one is using this.

up2youjoe

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16598530~mode=flat

http://www.dansdata.com/danletters171.htm

http://www.skwor.com/Power-Save-1200-8139134x233.htm

disneyjoe7

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :rolleyes: :mad: :mad:

KVAR is a local inventor for this also, and my local news channel 9 and channel 2 had some reports on them.... I missed this WTF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PapMwstQ7Ks

nadams

Speaking of inductive loads... I can't imagine what the power bill is at the carpet mill where I'm currently working. On the smaller velvet looms that we have, the motors are anywhere from 10-20hp 220v. and there's a lot of start/stop and constantly fluctuating loads...

jdhdiggs

Let us know about your results Steve...

disneyjoe7

jdhdiggs wrote:

Let us know about your results Steve...

Will do have an amp probe ready

jdhdiggs

That sounds painfull...

disneyjoe7

All Probes can be...

mhardy6647

ummm... the stock's lost 96+% of its value in the last 12 months. Not so good.

http://quote.barchart.com/quote.asp?sym=PWVG&code=

disneyjoe7

Hmmm,

But I feel there's something to it so I did order it.

up2youjoe

Last year the stock opened at $15 and immediately shot down to $1 and then down to .45. I would think if this item worked the stock would be higher.

jdhdiggs

I have a feeling if anyone heard of this company and the product worked, it would be higher.

disneyjoe7

I feel it will work ok product, but I sure some people feel it's smoke and mirrors.

BTW I have some electrical panel issue with this, just looking some idea's.... Any electricians in the house?
I talked with an electricain today maybe seeing one later when I have it in hand, when need to check performance of this if it's 10%-100% or nothing... But I need to check it on the master panel and a small sub panel. I have 4 electrical panels in this house.

jdhdiggs

Any updates? I'm really curious on how this would work.

disneyjoe7

I'm looking forward to checking this out myself, but I haven't gotten it yet. And unfortunately I don't receive any email of shipment tracking, so I my need to get a hold of someone soon.


Other then that my house has 3 sub panels my AC runs of Sub #1 while pool pump runs on Sub #3. So I think it will work best on main panel, but there's no room and options don't look really pretty. Option (1) remove GFI breaker for Jazzuie in master bath to Sub #2 45ft away in garage. Doing this would allow quad breaker to be installed so I can get the 20amp 240vac for this main panel. Option (2) install this to Sub #3 (Pool sub) but since this is feed off main panel with a 30amp feed I'm not sure if this is really cool or would work for AC unit. But will test and electricians on standby waiting for final word if this works also, at this point will ask them what is best to do.

BTW main panel is a 8 breaker box with 4 spaces eaten up with 2 100amp sub feeds then have 1 GFI, 1 15amp full size breaker, 1 quad eaten 2 more spaces with 2 15amp feeding master bed / bath / family room with the 30amp 240vac in the middle of that feeding new pool sub panel.

disneyjoe7

jdhdiggs wrote:

Any updates? I'm really curious on how this would work.

Well I thought at first it was less smoke and mirrors, and more true then false....



Not at least at my house, find it may adds about 7kw a day or 210kw over in a month. I have it hooked up at my house but it's been turned off. I may sell this to someone here if interested, or make it some test thing where someone tries it then passes it around. On the other hand that could be a bad idea as this needs to be wired to house panel so we are talking about something that could KILL you if you're sure what you're doing.

Frank Z

Huh? Are you saying it does not work as advertised?

disneyjoe7

I believe a few things....

1.) this statement will kill any sale of this It's now trash.

This works as advertise as far as it's will lower amps to a motor when in use. What I believe is a true statement is that residential power meters don't care about apparent power but will charge you true power. I'm a bit lost on that myself as large commercial users use a capacitor bank to counter apparent loads to true power. So if this is true than I think residential meters are the same. I just think it changes from an inductance load to a resistor load when a motor is working but stills adds capacitance to load when a motor is not in use. So if it was working positive for me it worked negatively for me also. Adding 7kw a day.

disneyjoe7

Sorry did my last message confuse anyone? I'm not sure if I did or how to make it clearer.

For Sale make offer. Paid $325 after shipping / handling tax.

Libertyc

So your electric bill went up?

disneyjoe7

It's hard to say to many factors in my house at the time. I can say it did nothing or added like $20 bucks a month for me.

PolkWannabie

I got a great perpetual motion machine I could offer in trade ...

disneyjoe7

Ok

disneyjoe7

nadams wrote:

Speaking of inductive loads... I can't imagine what the power bill is at the carpet mill where I'm currently working. On the smaller velvet looms that we have, the motors are anywhere from 10-20hp 220v. and there's a lot of start/stop and constantly fluctuating loads...

Looking back at posting... My co workers and myself feel the build we work in pulls about $25k a month in electric. The AC is on 24 / 7 I don't care if it's 40f out it's on. The backup generator is 500kw but been told it's too small :eek: going to 1000kw. The 500kw generator draws 20 gallons a hour, is a twin turbo v-12 diesel rated at 750hp (I think that is 750hp day and night for ever). I can't wait to in charge of the 1000kw someday.