Lookin for some cables

JDOGG
JDOGG Posts: 433
edited August 2006 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
With the new amp on the way (thanks DarqueKnight), I am wanting to buy some interconnects. I have been looking at Audioquest Sidewinders, for 65 bucks. Anyone have opinions on these, other cables to look out for? Thanks.

Jordan
Panasonic VIERA 46" 1080p plasma
Onkyo TX-SR805
Klipsch RF-7(bi-amped)
Klipsch RF-25
Xbox 360 with HD DVD
Playstation 3
Cobalt Cable
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited August 2006
    www.signalcable.com

    Check out the Analog Two ic's....

    You can't go wrong, plus I believe there's a 30-day return policy (though I'm confident you won't be using it):D

    5% Club Polk discount to boot....
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited August 2006
    The Sidewinders/Copperheads are a good cable---BUT HANDLE WITH CARE. It's very easy to break the connection being solid copper conductors, if you tug on them or are to rough with them.

    You might try Kimber PBJ also. To save some money on cables, hit Ebay/Audiogon buy USED.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,046
    edited August 2006
    steveinaz wrote:
    The Sidewinders/Copperheads are a good cable---BUT HANDLE WITH CARE. It's very easy to break the connection being solid copper conductors, if you tug on them or are to rough with them.

    I think I have this issue, I am getting a very loud hum when I listen to my CDP. If the player moves just a tad (by dusting it) I get a loud hum. Must take them out and see what I can do.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited August 2006
    This is why I went to Kimber PBJ, and later to Hero.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,046
    edited August 2006
    steveinaz wrote:
    This is why I went to Kimber PBJ, and later to Hero.

    this is why I may go to them as well. Heck I might even try signal.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited August 2006
    Don't get me wrong AQ Sidewinder is a great sounding cable. A touch lean on bass, excellent treble, but they require careful handling. If you don't putz around with your equipment much, you'd be fine.

    FWIW, Copperhead isn't worth the extra dime. I could detect no difference between Sidewinder/Copperhead, I had both for quite some time. The only difference (aside from appearance) is the Copperhead uses "perfect surface copper." All gauges/topolgy/connectors/insulators are the same.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,046
    edited August 2006
    I use G-snake on my bedroom system and sidewinder on my main. Not sure if it's just a soldering issue or if the cable itself somewhere is Effe'd up. I am thinking it's just the connection at the RCA plug. Maybe a weekend project.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited August 2006
    Usually the break happens in the copper just AT the solder joint of the connector, and sometimes it's hard to see the break.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,046
    edited August 2006
    Good to know and sorry for the Hi-jack wasn't meant to be.
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  • JDOGG
    JDOGG Posts: 433
    edited August 2006
    Thank you all for your input. No, I don't move my gear around hardly ever. But thanks for the heads up on the Audioquest. I am going to look into Kimber and Signal. Thanks everyone.
    Panasonic VIERA 46" 1080p plasma
    Onkyo TX-SR805
    Klipsch RF-7(bi-amped)
    Klipsch RF-25
    Xbox 360 with HD DVD
    Playstation 3
    Cobalt Cable
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  • JDOGG
    JDOGG Posts: 433
    edited August 2006
    Oh, how do I go about getting a 5% discount?
    Panasonic VIERA 46" 1080p plasma
    Onkyo TX-SR805
    Klipsch RF-7(bi-amped)
    Klipsch RF-25
    Xbox 360 with HD DVD
    Playstation 3
    Cobalt Cable
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited August 2006
    I'm an Audioquest fan myself...but you should be able to do better pricewise than 65 for a pair of Sidewinders...
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited August 2006
    JDOGG wrote:
    Oh, how do I go about getting a 5% discount?

    Just ask Frank and he'll oblige:)

    With SignalCable, you'll not only get an excellent product at an even better price -- you'll get personal service.
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • JDOGG
    JDOGG Posts: 433
    edited August 2006
    Ok now I have found another cable company, what is your guys' opinion on Cobalt Cable?
    Panasonic VIERA 46" 1080p plasma
    Onkyo TX-SR805
    Klipsch RF-7(bi-amped)
    Klipsch RF-25
    Xbox 360 with HD DVD
    Playstation 3
    Cobalt Cable
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  • ahorvitz
    ahorvitz Posts: 235
    edited August 2006
    As a matter of fact, Frank hooked me up today with 5% off a set of 5 Analog 2's- nice guy.
    Main Rig
    Pioneer Elite SC-05, Rotel RMB-1075
    RT800i, CS400i, RT35i, FXi50, Klipsch RSW-12
    Pioneer Elite DV F-07, PS3, Wii
    Monster HTS 3500 MKII
    SC Analog 2, BJC Speaker Wire
    Samsung HL61A650

    2nd Rig
    Pioneer Elite VSX-56txi, Pioneer Elite DV-47a
    Cambridge Soundworks, MC150 (Center), MC100 x 4, Mirage LF-150

    Office
    Adcom GTP-400, Adcom GFA-535II, (need a quality CDP), RT55i
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited August 2006
    ahorvitz wrote:
    As a matter of fact, Frank hooked me up today with 5% off a set of 5 Analog 2's- nice guy.

    Sweet! Will you be using 'em for SACD or hooking up a five-channel amp?
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • ahorvitz
    ahorvitz Posts: 235
    edited August 2006
    zombie boy 2000 wrote:
    Sweet! Will you be using 'em for SACD or hooking up a five-channel amp?

    5 channel amp, which is hooked up now with M* Reference IC's. Long story short, this will clean things up and I'll migrate the M*s to source->receiver duty.
    Main Rig
    Pioneer Elite SC-05, Rotel RMB-1075
    RT800i, CS400i, RT35i, FXi50, Klipsch RSW-12
    Pioneer Elite DV F-07, PS3, Wii
    Monster HTS 3500 MKII
    SC Analog 2, BJC Speaker Wire
    Samsung HL61A650

    2nd Rig
    Pioneer Elite VSX-56txi, Pioneer Elite DV-47a
    Cambridge Soundworks, MC150 (Center), MC100 x 4, Mirage LF-150

    Office
    Adcom GTP-400, Adcom GFA-535II, (need a quality CDP), RT55i
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited August 2006
    You'll be pleasantly surprised. Give 'em some time to burn in and they'll start working their magic. The Analog One's are stellar as well, but for different reasons. The 2's however, really open up the soundstage, and make the midrange smooth as silk. If you're looking for a more agressive top-end, the One's might be your ticket, though.
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited August 2006
    Between Cobalt/Signal, I'd go Signal. Why? there are comparable but Frank supports the Polk Forum, and their workmanship is top-notch.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • univera
    univera Posts: 848
    edited August 2006
    On a related note, can someone drop some basic knowledge on solid silver vs. copper? I have heard silver is "lean" vs. copper but that it has more transparency and airy sound.
    UNIVERA
    Historic Charleston SC

    2 Channel:
    SDA-SRS's RDO tweets
    Biamped Anthem 2 SE's w/1970's NOS Siemens CCA's
    Anthem Pre 2L w/E.harmonix platinum matched 6H23's
    CDP- NAD C 542


    HT setup:
    AVR: NAD T 773
    Rears: Polk LC80i
    DVD: Toshiba 3109 dual tray
    Subs: Velodyne and M&K
    T.V.: Sony KDL-52XBR4 w/Vans Evers Clean Line Jr.
    Conditioner: Panamax M5100EX

    Master Bedroom Sony 40KDL-XBR3

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  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,576
    edited August 2006
    Frank is a hell of a nice guy. In just the last month I've probaly spent well over $1500 in I/C. Just tell him Rob from the Polk forum sent ya, he'll hook ya up like he has many others.
    Money Talks, Mine says Goodbye Rob!!!!
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited August 2006
    Kimber Heros are nice. Cobalt Cable makes some nice interconnects. I am using DH Labs Air Matrix now. They are the sweetest I have used so far.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • JDOGG
    JDOGG Posts: 433
    edited August 2006
    Well at $255 for a 2 meter pair, a little out of my price range, and what I want to spend($60-$100), but thanks for the input anyways.
    Panasonic VIERA 46" 1080p plasma
    Onkyo TX-SR805
    Klipsch RF-7(bi-amped)
    Klipsch RF-25
    Xbox 360 with HD DVD
    Playstation 3
    Cobalt Cable
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited August 2006
    JDOGG wrote:
    Ok now I have found another cable company, what is your guys' opinion on Cobalt Cable?


    now you're talking.. lol i use them both. IC's and speaker cables.. very well made and sound great on both counts. :D

    Everyone here has their own faves of course.. but within a resonable price range.. you can't go wrong with the Cobalts, Signals or the many others in that price.

    I also use some of these.. http://cgi.ebay.com/1-0-Meter-Silver-Analog-Audio-Cable-High-End_W0QQitemZ200015354989QQihZ010QQcategoryZ33205QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
    read his thoughts on cable design and materials used to make his cables.
    Email him if you have any questions..
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited August 2006
    univera wrote:
    On a related note, can someone drop some basic knowledge on solid silver vs. copper? I have heard silver is "lean" vs. copper but that it has more transparency and airy sound.

    Silver generally delivers a tad more bass extension, as well. Some have also reported success running silver cables to their tweeters while running copper to their drivers in a bi-amp configuration.
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited August 2006
    JDOGG wrote:
    Well at $255 for a 2 meter pair, a little out of my price range, and what I want to spend($60-$100), but thanks for the input anyways.

    I found My DH labs used for about $125 a pair for 1 meter but 2 would be pushing it. In that case I would go with the Cobalts for budget.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • Burnzy
    Burnzy Posts: 250
    edited August 2006
    What length are you looking for??


    Regards,
    Scott
    SYSTEM
    HDTV ..........Sony KP-57WV600
    CD / DVD......Sony DVP-C675D
    AVR ............Denon 2801
    MAINS .........Polk RTi8
    CENTER .......Polk CSi5
    Surrounds ....Polk FXi3
    Sub ............Polk PSW-250
    Cables.........Zebra Cables
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  • JDOGG
    JDOGG Posts: 433
    edited August 2006
    I am looking for 2 meter length.
    Panasonic VIERA 46" 1080p plasma
    Onkyo TX-SR805
    Klipsch RF-7(bi-amped)
    Klipsch RF-25
    Xbox 360 with HD DVD
    Playstation 3
    Cobalt Cable
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  • JDOGG
    JDOGG Posts: 433
    edited August 2006
    Well guys I went ahead and ordered up some Cobalt Cable IC's. They have a 90 day return policy, and a lifetime warranty, plus free shipping. Next up I am going with some bi-wire from Signal Cable.
    Panasonic VIERA 46" 1080p plasma
    Onkyo TX-SR805
    Klipsch RF-7(bi-amped)
    Klipsch RF-25
    Xbox 360 with HD DVD
    Playstation 3
    Cobalt Cable
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited August 2006
    There you go...
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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