August Issue of Affordable$$Audio

markmarc
markmarc Posts: 2,309
edited April 2024 in Clubhouse Archives
Everyone, Affordable$$Audio's August issue is now available for download (just 3.4 megs).
Thanks for your support!!
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Founder/Publisher Affordable$$Audio 2006-13.
Former Staff Member TONEAudio
2 Ch. System
Amplifiers: Parasound Halo P6 pre, Vista Audio i34, Peachtree amp500, Adcom GFP-565 GFA-535ii, 545ii, 555ii
Digital: SimAudio HAD230 DAC, iMac 20in/Amarra,
Speakers: Paradigm Performa F75, Magnepan .7, Totem Model 1's, ACI Emerald XL, Celestion Si Stands. Totem Dreamcatcher sub
Analog: Technics SL-J2 w/Pickering 3000D, SimAudio LP5.3 phono pre
Cable/Wires: Cardas, AudioArt, Shunyata Venom 3
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  • Schris22
    Schris22 Posts: 983
    edited August 2006
    Thanks for producing things.

    I looked at the listing at the top and went straight to the one about an audio only store and read that.

    This is a subject which would reflect a lot about the person and it's a good read, a fantasy yes like you say.

    One gripe would be the picture/column layout on page 19 and 20, the left colum is soooo hard to read/broken on page 20.

    Chris
    Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR502-S
    DVD Player: Pioneer DV-578A-S
    Left and Right: R50
    Center: CS1
    Rear Center: R15
    Surrounds: R30
    Subwoofer: 10'' Dayton 100 Watt
  • Refefer
    Refefer Posts: 1,280
    edited August 2006
    Thanks, I've enjoyed reading these.
    Lovin that music year after year.

    Main 2 Channel System

    Polk SDA-1B,
    Promitheus Audio TVC SE,
    Rotel RB-980BX,
    OPPO DV-970HD,
    Lite Audio DAC AH,
    IXOS XHA305 Interconnects


    Computer Rig

    Polk SDA CRS+,
    Creek Audio 5350 SE,
    Morrow Audio MA1 Interconnect,
    HRT Music Streamer II
  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited August 2006
    SChris:
    Thanks for the warning about page 20. Glad you're enjoying the e-zine.
    Review Site_ (((AudioPursuit)))
    Founder/Publisher Affordable$$Audio 2006-13.
    Former Staff Member TONEAudio
    2 Ch. System
    Amplifiers: Parasound Halo P6 pre, Vista Audio i34, Peachtree amp500, Adcom GFP-565 GFA-535ii, 545ii, 555ii
    Digital: SimAudio HAD230 DAC, iMac 20in/Amarra,
    Speakers: Paradigm Performa F75, Magnepan .7, Totem Model 1's, ACI Emerald XL, Celestion Si Stands. Totem Dreamcatcher sub
    Analog: Technics SL-J2 w/Pickering 3000D, SimAudio LP5.3 phono pre
    Cable/Wires: Cardas, AudioArt, Shunyata Venom 3
  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited August 2006
    Very interesting. I did not know a speaker company offered an upgrade path. Maggies have definitely caught my attention now. I may have to find a place to listen to them. If I can gradually upgrade without losing any money, that is an awesome deal.

    I wish Polk encouraged trade-ups. What a wonderful marketing scheme.
    Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
    __________________________________________
    Panasonic -50PX600U 50" Plasma
    Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
    Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
    Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
    PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
    PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
    PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
    SVS - PB-12/Plus (Subwoofer)
    Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
    Logitech Harmony 880 - Remote
  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited August 2006
    Holydoc:
    That is a nice thing about being a smaller company, the flexibility in upgrading. Since Polk goes thru retailers, it would be up to them to allow upgrades. I know Circuit City offered upgrades when they carried the Polk RTi line.
    Review Site_ (((AudioPursuit)))
    Founder/Publisher Affordable$$Audio 2006-13.
    Former Staff Member TONEAudio
    2 Ch. System
    Amplifiers: Parasound Halo P6 pre, Vista Audio i34, Peachtree amp500, Adcom GFP-565 GFA-535ii, 545ii, 555ii
    Digital: SimAudio HAD230 DAC, iMac 20in/Amarra,
    Speakers: Paradigm Performa F75, Magnepan .7, Totem Model 1's, ACI Emerald XL, Celestion Si Stands. Totem Dreamcatcher sub
    Analog: Technics SL-J2 w/Pickering 3000D, SimAudio LP5.3 phono pre
    Cable/Wires: Cardas, AudioArt, Shunyata Venom 3
  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited August 2006
    Mark,

    A note about the maggie article: The maggies say they only need 50W, but anyone who has owned them (and tested this) would tell you if you don't have an amp that can drive a 2 ohm load (which they can drop down to) and have at least 250W, you're not getting what you can out of the speakers. The MMG's might be a bit different although they've only ever sounded magical on Mark's BBQ amp (about 450W+ /channel). My 3.3R's lacked low end punch and clarity until I went over 400W. Of course, YMMV and someone might be perfectly happy with the sound from 50W, but I's still contend that they sound better the more power/damping/instantaneous current capability that you can provide.
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited August 2006
    JD:
    A valid point for sure. I'll make sure to pass that onto the article's author, Mike Jarve.
    Review Site_ (((AudioPursuit)))
    Founder/Publisher Affordable$$Audio 2006-13.
    Former Staff Member TONEAudio
    2 Ch. System
    Amplifiers: Parasound Halo P6 pre, Vista Audio i34, Peachtree amp500, Adcom GFP-565 GFA-535ii, 545ii, 555ii
    Digital: SimAudio HAD230 DAC, iMac 20in/Amarra,
    Speakers: Paradigm Performa F75, Magnepan .7, Totem Model 1's, ACI Emerald XL, Celestion Si Stands. Totem Dreamcatcher sub
    Analog: Technics SL-J2 w/Pickering 3000D, SimAudio LP5.3 phono pre
    Cable/Wires: Cardas, AudioArt, Shunyata Venom 3
  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited August 2006
    jdhdiggs,

    I am kind of interested in this speaker line now. Where (besides the manufactorer site) would I go to learn more about them? The fact that they let you upgrade has really caught my attention. I just cannot get over what a nice gesture that is.

    I will need ideas on how to compare them to other speakers. In other words, I want to give them a fair test instead of dismissing them when I may not have had enough power, or the right setup, etc. Any advice would be wonderful.

    ***** To keep from hijacking this thread too much, you are always welcome to PM me *****
    Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
    __________________________________________
    Panasonic -50PX600U 50" Plasma
    Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
    Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
    Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
    PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
    PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
    PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
    SVS - PB-12/Plus (Subwoofer)
    Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
    Logitech Harmony 880 - Remote
  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited August 2006
    markmarc wrote:
    JD:
    A valid point for sure. I'll make sure to pass that onto the article's author, Mike Jarve.

    Mark,

    I do apologize for hijacking the thread. But as you can see, your magazine did spark interest where interest had not existed before.

    :)
    Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
    __________________________________________
    Panasonic -50PX600U 50" Plasma
    Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
    Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
    Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
    PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
    PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
    PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
    SVS - PB-12/Plus (Subwoofer)
    Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
    Logitech Harmony 880 - Remote
  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited August 2006
    Actually, with Marks permission, I think a thread hijack is warranted as we are talking about something that came from his magazine. BTW Mark, excellent job getting that thing started!

    With the MMG's, I feel that they messed one thing up on them- They don't stand upright. If you can tilt them upright and have a good SS amp, I would bet that they stand on their own merits. By a good SS amp, prtty much anything over 150 W/channel should give you a good idea of what the MMG's do.

    As for setup, I prefer the maggie recommended method of toeing them in. You start with them about 2' apart always angle right at your listening area and keep spreading them out until the image breaks up or you get within a foot of the wall.

    If you have the space and the amps to do a correct maggie setup, you will be hard pressed to find a better speaker (@ $550 for the MMG's)
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited August 2006
    jdhdiggs wrote:
    With the MMG's, I feel that they messed one thing up on them- They don't stand upright. If you can tilt them upright and have a good SS amp, I would bet that they stand on their own merits. By a good SS amp, prtty much anything over 150 W/channel should give you a good idea of what the MMG's do.

    ...

    If you have the space and the amps to do a correct maggie setup, you will be hard pressed to find a better speaker (@ $550 for the MMG's)

    What do you mean the Maggies do not stand upright?

    So my outlaw770 amp (7x200watts @ 8ohms) would be enough to drive them ok?

    Are they a good HT speaker? I am about 80/20 HT with my system. It is very important that I get great HT sound. Do the Maggies put out enough impact for HT use? I always heard that they were accurate but tame.
    Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
    __________________________________________
    Panasonic -50PX600U 50" Plasma
    Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
    Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
    Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
    PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
    PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
    PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
    SVS - PB-12/Plus (Subwoofer)
    Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
    Logitech Harmony 880 - Remote
  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited August 2006
    THe outlaw would be fine. As for the MMG's not being upright, well, if 90d is striaght up and down, the stock MMG's stand at about 70d sloping away from you.

    Enough impact for HT use... Pfffffsssh! Anyone who claims they don't have bass hasn't heard a set properly setup and amplified. You may have some trouble due to the space requirements though...
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited August 2006
    JD:
    Hijack away, it's what the e-zine is all about, sparking dicussion.
    Review Site_ (((AudioPursuit)))
    Founder/Publisher Affordable$$Audio 2006-13.
    Former Staff Member TONEAudio
    2 Ch. System
    Amplifiers: Parasound Halo P6 pre, Vista Audio i34, Peachtree amp500, Adcom GFP-565 GFA-535ii, 545ii, 555ii
    Digital: SimAudio HAD230 DAC, iMac 20in/Amarra,
    Speakers: Paradigm Performa F75, Magnepan .7, Totem Model 1's, ACI Emerald XL, Celestion Si Stands. Totem Dreamcatcher sub
    Analog: Technics SL-J2 w/Pickering 3000D, SimAudio LP5.3 phono pre
    Cable/Wires: Cardas, AudioArt, Shunyata Venom 3
  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited August 2006
    jdhdiggs wrote:
    You may have some trouble due to the space requirements though...

    Well don't leave me hanging. What do you mean by this statement? Pictures too if you have them.
    Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
    __________________________________________
    Panasonic -50PX600U 50" Plasma
    Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
    Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
    Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
    PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
    PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
    PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
    SVS - PB-12/Plus (Subwoofer)
    Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
    Logitech Harmony 880 - Remote
  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited August 2006
    Size: Mind you these are the 3.3's, not mmg...

    The first is in comparison to a 32" TV, and SVS PB12+2 is hiding there as well.

    The second is comparing to the SDA1-B. I would say the MMG's are a bit larger than the SDA1-B.

    The other "size" issue is they don't like being next to walls. 2' from any wall is preferable.

    (Old apt setup for during the move, no one ****)
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited August 2006
    OMG....never mind. Too big.
    Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
    __________________________________________
    Panasonic -50PX600U 50" Plasma
    Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
    Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
    Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
    PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
    PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
    PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
    SVS - PB-12/Plus (Subwoofer)
    Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
    Logitech Harmony 880 - Remote
  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited August 2006
    Hey, remember, those are the 3 series. The MMG's wouldn't take up more floor space than your RTi12's. In fact, that is a PERFECT speaker to compare as they both tend to be amp limited. Try A-gon and get some used MMG's for $350. If they are too big or you don't like em, sell them for $350.
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • Burnzy
    Burnzy Posts: 250
    edited August 2006
    Mark,

    Thanks again for another great issue!


    Regards,
    Scott
    SYSTEM
    HDTV ..........Sony KP-57WV600
    CD / DVD......Sony DVP-C675D
    AVR ............Denon 2801
    MAINS .........Polk RTi8
    CENTER .......Polk CSi5
    Surrounds ....Polk FXi3
    Sub ............Polk PSW-250
    Cables.........Zebra Cables