Just got into Clapton

organ
organ Posts: 4,969
edited December 2006 in Music & Movies
Man, can't believe what kind of great music I've been missing out on.

I love Eagles and have been listening to them for about a year. Now I started listening to Eric Clapton. "Tears in Heaven" was one of the first songs I heard and fell in love with it. I also started listening to Bread. I really like their music.

So far I have "Clapton Chronicles, the best of Eric Clapton" and "Clapton Unplugged". Which album should I get next? I like his mellow stuff.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited July 2006
    organ wrote:
    Man, can't believe what kind of great music I've been missing out on.

    I love Eagles and have been listening to them for about a year. Now I started listening to Eric Clapton. "Tears in Heaven" was one of the first songs I heard and fell in love with it. I also started listening to Bread. I really like their music.

    So far I have "Clapton Chronicles, the best of Eric Clapton" and "Clapton Unplugged". Which album should I get next? I like his mellow stuff.


    I have spent 30 minutes with my ear up to a bag of Wonder Bread now and nothing!:confused:
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    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited July 2006
    organ wrote:


    OOHH! Well now I feel just plain silly.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited July 2006
    It's a bit on the "pop" side but I really like Journeyman.
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  • BlueMDPicker
    BlueMDPicker Posts: 7,569
    edited July 2006
    These are the cherry picks I'd suggest from a rather extensive discography:

    Cream - Disraeli Gears

    Blind Faith - S/T

    John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers - with Eric Clapton (the "Beano" album)

    Eric Clapton - From the Cradle

    A Tribute to SRV - DVD, with Buddy Guy, Bonnie Raitt, Jimmy Vaughn, Clapton

    B.B. King - Riding with the King

    John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers - 70th Birthday Concert. Clapton shines when "confronted" by other world-class blues guitarist like Buddy Whittington, Mick Taylor
  • BlueMDPicker
    BlueMDPicker Posts: 7,569
    edited July 2006
    Zero wrote:
    If you wanna get down - down on the ground, Cocaine...

    Great stuff.
    J.J. Cale's original version from Troubador has a slower groove and darker mood than Clapton's rocked-up cover. Give it a listen sometime (the whole album is excellent.)
  • read-alot
    read-alot Posts: 812
    edited July 2006
    The Eric Clapton Crossroads DVD has JJ doing Cocaine. ( Singing the Song )
    It's a pretty good video DVD of the legends laying it down.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited July 2006
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! A little before your time Darla?:D Although it's understandable since they split up eons ago.
    I have spent 30 minutes with my ear up to a bag of Wonder Bread now and nothing!:confused:
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited July 2006
    cfrizz wrote:
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! A little before your time Darla?:D Although it's understandable since they split up eons ago.


    Maybe a bit???I think I was just a kid....?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited July 2006
    Maybe a bit???I think I was just a kid....?

    Atleast you're not sitting at the table trying to listen to your slice of Meatloaf :p

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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited July 2006
    heiney9 wrote:
    Atleast you're not sitting at the table trying to listen to your slice of Meatloaf :p

    H9


    No....but I was just staring at a bag of black eyed peas wondering what the big deal was all about.
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    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
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    No....but I was just staring at a bag of black eyed peas wondering what the big deal was all about.

    The big deal is you should always eat your vegetables!
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  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited July 2006
    If you are in the mood for Clapton, you have to be in the mood for Bob Segar.
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  • Hvrnaut
    Hvrnaut Posts: 43
    edited July 2006
    Clapton was strongly influenced by American Blues and R&B. It shows!
  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited July 2006
    I have spent 30 minutes with my ear up to a bag of Wonder Bread now and nothing!
    No....but I was just staring at a bag of black eyed peas wondering what the big deal was all about.


    Please don't tell her there is a group by the name **** Surfers.....
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited July 2006
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!:D :D:D:D:D
    heiney9 wrote:
    Atleast you're not sitting at the table trying to listen to your slice of Meatloaf :p

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  • univera
    univera Posts: 848
    edited July 2006
    Bob Seager can't touch Clapton. Going to see Clapton live in a couple of months with another guitar stud, Robert Cray. I highly recommend the Clapton box set Live in the 70's. Awesoeme live stuff from all over the U.S. and the world. Sounds very good. If you like his true, blues roots and the Tulsa sound, you will love it. Also, the Tribute to George Harrison DVD sounds incredible. Ravi Shankar's daughter plays amazing Sitar accompanied by a huge Indian orchestra. Petty, Clapton, Jeff Lynn, Billy Preston (rest his soul) Ringo, and McCartney all play on this one. Ringo and Paul are actually onstage together. There are others I can't recall at the moment. Billy Preston does My Sweet Lord. That is worth the price of admission. Awesome lineup and sound!

    In case new Clapton devotees are unaware, Clapton was hooked up with Harrison's at-the-time wife, Linda. Clapton and Harrison remained friends thru it all.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited July 2006
    I have respect for everyone's musical tastes, but I've never understood why Clapton is considered a guitiar god. He's good, but certainly doesn't stand out to be worshipped like so many apparently do, JMHO.

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  • mrmusicman
    mrmusicman Posts: 303
    edited July 2006
    I hate to say it but Clapton was at his best when he was slammin' dope....but if he didn't quit he'd probally look alot like Keith Richards.:eek:
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  • univera
    univera Posts: 848
    edited July 2006
    I don't know about worship, but he is smooth as silk. He isn't my favorite guitar player, nor do I feel he is the best. But he does make some nice music, the best of which when he was stoned. In my mind, SRV was the best that ever lived. Clapton is almost too good. Too smooth. It is so effortless it sometimes lacks emotion. SRV could be smooth but he could also be oh so wicked. He made sounds come out of a guitar that were gut wrenching. No one can make the gut level sounds he produced. Had he lived a full lifetime, I don't think there would be a doubt about his true greatness. For the record, I think Robert Cray is a better player than Clapton. Santana, is his drug days, made some sweet sounds himself. Mark Knoffler is the smoothest of them all.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited July 2006
    univera wrote:
    I don't know about worship, but he is smooth as silk. He isn't my favorite guitar player, nor do I feel he is the best. But he does make some nice music, the best of which when he was stoned. In my mind, SRV was the best that ever lived. Clapton is almost too good. Too smooth. It is so effortless it sometimes lacks emotion. SRV could be smooth but he could also be oh so wicked. He made sounds come out of a guitar that were gut wrenching. No one can make the gut level sounds he produced. Had he lived a full lifetime, I don't think there would be a doubt about his true greatness. For the record, I think Robert Cray is a better player than Clapton. Santana, is his drug days, made some sweet sounds himself. Mark Knoffler is the smoothest of them all.

    Uni, seems like I'm busting on ya, but I'm not! I really like SRV, but all he did was copy others. Listen to Johnny Winter and add a piece of Jimi Hendrix and viola! you have SRV's style. He was a great player but he wasn't innovative at all. He is in my top 10 however! If he had a better drummer it would be killer stuff.

    Page
    Hendrix
    Beck
    Winter
    Allison
    O. Rush
    B.B. King
    A. King
    Guy
    and some others are my faves.

    Clapton doesn't make my top 10.n
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,729
    edited July 2006
    Univera nailed it, Clapton makes nice music. He, Knoffler and Steely Dan are always in my heavy rotation. What makes these guys so great is how refined their skills are.

    Add Layla and Eric Clapton S/T to the buy list.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited July 2006
    I do thoroughly enjoy Unplugged both the performance and the recording are top notch. Clapton certainly can get the essence of the blues across and he is clean and technical, perhaps that's why I feel he's a bit overrated. I'd listen to Jeff Beck or Johnny Winter over Clapton anytime. Don't even get me started on black blues players like Otis Rush, Buddy Guy, Albert King, B.B. King or Luther Allison or many many other great blues players who are barely even recognized.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited July 2006
    Another Clapton I enjoy and recommend if you are looking for a good cross section of his work is a 2-cd set called Blues. Disc 1 is studio stuff from his entire career. Disc 2 is where it's at however, because it's all live during different stages of his career. Disc 2 is mostly taken from Crossroads 1 & 2. But it's the most enjoyable Clapton I own. It's really focused on his blues songs and less on his commercial songs.

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  • univera
    univera Posts: 848
    edited July 2006
    Good stuff. Yea, I am a big blues fan myself. The older, unknown guys are way underappreciated. I saw Deacon John in N.O. at Jazz Fest this year (actaully at a night, club show) and this guy can play any style with aplomb. I had never seen him but he was great.

    Albert King is a great one. He was a big influence on SRV and Clapton. You can say SRV was a copycat, but no one can pull the sounds out a guitar that he did. He isn't someone who is considered "smooth" but he could play some quiet, smooth stuff. Riviera Paradise beautiful work.

    When Clapton called him an open channel, I would agree. It was like lighting came down from the sky. He never got stuck. He just kept playing. How he's not in your top ten, I don't know. Buddy Guy is great. I've seen him live. Do some good listening to Cray's bluesy stuff. He is fast as lightning. And, I feel Lindsey Buckingham is way underrated. That guy is unreal. If you haven't watched/listened to The Dance DVD, I highly recommend it. He has a unique style and is just amazing. You definitely lean towards the blues and I'm there with ya. Give Carlos a good listen. Smooth.
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited July 2006
    Thanks a lot for the reccommendations, guys! You just gave me a huge "to buy" list;).

    I'm 24 and it's amazing how many good bands/performers are out there that started way before my time. Queen was the first for me, then Eagles and now Clapton.
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited July 2006
    Nice going Organ! Without meaning to you just labeled a whole bunch of us as old!:rolleyes: ;):D
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  • adam2434
    adam2434 Posts: 995
    edited July 2006
    Big fan of Clapton's blues stuff, so +1 on the aforementioned Blues, From the Cradle, Bluesbreakers, and Riding with the King CDs.

    He's also got some great DVDs: Sessions for Robert J., One More Car One More Rider, Cream Royal Albert Hall.

    And if you want to hear where he got a lot of his blues guitar style, pick up some Freddy King. Freddy was a tremendous player and singer - definitely in my top 10 (probably more like top 5) blues guitar players in terms of originality, virtuosity, and influence on other players.
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    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited August 2006
    I somehow just ran across this, but I'm glad I did, as I'm bookmarking it and making a long to-buy list for artists I've never heard of before!

    At any rate, it's about time you discovered Eric Clapton! He's awesome, and I definitely agree with the sentiments regarding Unplugged; awesome stuff!

    I wouldn't recommend if for recording quality, but The Cream of Clapton seems to have a lot of good songs on it, and I always enjoy rocking out to it. Definitely something you should get just to have some fun.

    Do NOT buy Pilgrim. When I was blindly 'infatuated' with him (after discovering Unplugged, The Cream of Clapton, and The Clapton Chronicles, how can you not be??), I ran out and spent good money on Pilgrim. Man, don't do that. That CD killed about half my enthusiasm for Clapton (though there's still plenty left!). All the songs on that CD are 'un-Clapton' in my opinion, and they all have the same, stupid, redundant bass beat. Almost techno-like.

    So, anyhoo....
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited September 2006
    Cathy,
    You know I dind't mean that:). Hell, it's not necessarilly bad either. I only like older women.

    Bliss,
    Man, I've been listening to Clapton a lot. I love his music. So dreamy and moves my soul.

    So far my favorite tracks are 'blue eyes blue', 'change the world', 'tears in heaven', 'layla' and 'river of tears'. The recordings are superb too. I smiled when I saw the HDCD light on my cd player light up on blue eyes blue.

    Thanks for the warning on Pilgrim. I think I know what you're talking about. The last song on 'the best of clap ton' entitled '(I) get lost' got all technoey and stuff. I didn't like it.

    If you like Clapton, you should check out Eagles and Queen too.