2 Weeks Notices

VR3

Who has ever been at a job with a small staff of employees (privately owned business) and someone has quit all the sudden...

WTF is wrong with people.

Today, on my day off, one of the asst managers and drum techs just decide to effing quit.

Losers.

danger boy

Sid, this happens alot more often than you think. that's life

BlueMDPicker

Quit now, before they tattoo the store name on your **** cheek.

VR3

I really like my job...

11+ an hour isnt bad either.

janmike

Good attittude Sid. The ones who quit on the spot I just wait for the day they are looking for a reference.

polrbehr

It's worse when the quitter takes a client with them when they leave, which
is usually the reason they're leaving in the first place.

Trust me.

Glad it's only happened once (to me, anyway).

VR3

This is actually the 3rd or 4th time hes quit. I dont know why we keep letting him come back. He has a hard position to fill.

The guy is just a **** in general.

bvette94

Sid later on in life you will wish people will quit and they wont.

HiPerf360

bvette94 wrote:

Sid later on in life you will wish people will quit and they wont.

Oh so true...


I was just discussing this with one of my supers... What happened to peoples work ethics?

VR3

I always out-work people it seems -

I guess because Ive worked since I was 12 with a framing crew. So working in AC, indoors...just talking to customers and stocking the floor seems like a piece of cake in comparison.

My Dad definitely hammered work ethic into my skull, Im not afraid to do something - so Ive gotten use to people being lazy, where as I dont have a problem doing alot of the stuff right away...

But this guy... hes spent the past 2 months doing inventory in the percussion department... I sold about 1,500 in that department the other day (about 10-15 items) and about 3 of them were in inventory if you get my drift.

I hated this guy...and he hated me. However, he waited until my day off to quit (where as he had to work) - so I had to come in on my day off... overtime for me! yay!

Dennis Gardner

If they had a bad attitude or work habit, no notice is a blessing, since honoring a notice would simply be handing them an extra check for nothing.
Marking time until their last day is painful for everyone around. I always suggest that management write down the circumstances in a manager log somewhere other than their personnel file to remind yourself exactly how they left, since when we are hard up for help we tend to rehire the lousy past workers as an easy out of a tough training spot. Rehires are rarely good hires.

VR3

Well its not that we wanted him to stay...

Its just that... we have the owner, a manager, and 3 salesman (one being me)...

The manager and this guy was working the floor today (mostly the guy that quit)... and he chose today to quit...the jerk...

Where as tommorow... he would of been off and no one would of cared.

mhardy6647

unless one has a contract with one's employer, one is an "at will" employee.

This means that your employer can let you go anytime, for any (or no) reason, if "your services are no longer needed".

As an employee, you can decide to leave the same way. No formal or legal requirement for "two weeks notice"... although it's generally not a great idea to burn one's bridges behind one.

Demiurge

It's just bad form to up and quit, but it happens a lot. When I was doing pizza delivery during school we probably went through 3 people a month. Of those, most were just walkouts or no show. The lower the pay, the more likely it is to happen. It just screws over the rest of your fellow employees who have to cover the void.

Normanality

Don't judge too quickly until you've on the receiving end.

Most (not all) companies are not loyal to employees either. The larger
the company, the less you mean to them.

I've been given a 1 day notice and a 0 day notice (friday at 4pm) that the
company is downsizing and 25% of the employees had to go. No package,
no appreciation for many years of loyal service. The 1980's sucked for
middle and upper-middle management.

I gave an employer a 4 week notice to help them find a replacement and
at the end of the period, they tried to screw me out of accrued vacation time.

It's best in many cases, that if you are planning to leave, then just leave.

Ron-P

There have been times I've wanted to do the same but never did, out of respect and I did not want to burn a bridge. It's just not worth it.

Best of luck finding a replacement, hopefully not the same guy....again.

reeltrouble1

Oh take this job and shove it, I aint working here no more!!!!!!!!!

two weeks notice is crap invented by people like me who want cake and pie, you dont get it when your fired. albiet you do this (quit on the spot) and you might want to have your next position already lined up, although when giving bad references libel can come into play if your over the top, lawyers, friggen lawyers are everywhere these days!!!!

Whoever keeps hiring this guy back is just enabling the process to continue, nobody is that valuable to an organization and its sending messages to the Kid here, poor work ethic.

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bobman1235

reeltrouble1 wrote:

Oh take this job and shove it, I aint working here no more!!!!!!!!!

two weeks notice is crap invented by people like me who want cake and pie, you dont get it when your fired. albiet you do this (quit on the spot) and you might want to have your next position already lined up, although when giving bad references libel can come into play if your over the top, lawyers, friggen lawyers are everywhere these days!!!!

If you're fired you most likely did something wrong. If you're laid off in most cases you get some kind of notice, and / or severance pay (in a real job at least).

Honestly, if you don't care about your employer being screwed over, that's fine, that's obviously a personality trait you have to deal with, but no one wants a bad reference. Unless you have a bunch of other jobs that you can get good references from, giving two weeks is always in your own best interest.

reeltrouble1

Normanality wrote:

I've been given a 1 day notice and a 0 day notice (friday at 4pm) that the
company is downsizing and 25% of the employees had to go. No package,
no appreciation for many years of loyal service. The 1980's sucked for
middle and upper-middle management.

I gave an employer a 4 week notice to help them find a replacement and
at the end of the period, they tried to screw me out of accrued vacation time.

I bet that was a helluva the trip home followed by great supper.

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Gaara

I normally give two week notices, and always regret it.

Back at McDs they made me clean out the grease traps everyday that I worked, we would usually rotate and I would do it once every two weeks.

When I used to work at DD I was given no notice, I just went in back and I wasn't on the schedule. That was no ones fault really, I was 16 and was closing alone, it was a state law that you had to be 18 to run a store at night. Still I would have appreciated something, not just having my name erased.

My last job I was told no, I wasn't allowed to leave, and they still put me on the schedule after my two weeks notice. When I told them I really was leaving they laughed.

At sears I gave my notice with no issues...until they called my three months later to see if I could cover someones shift. I told them I had left the company 10 weeks before...they still asked if I could come in for good ol times sake.

Jared

Ron-P

If you're fired you most likely did something wrong. If you're laid off in most cases you get some kind of notice, and / or severance pay (in a real job at least).

Bingo!

I've never been fired but laid off a few times, each and everytime I got a severance package of two weeks pay and more.

steveinaz

Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:

I really like my job...

11+ an hour isnt bad either.

That is good, but don't you Californians pay like 14 bucks for a snickers?

Demiurge

I thought he was from NC.

VR3

Demiurge wrote:

I thought he was from NC.

I am...;)

wallstreet

I always give notice. Basically I have to since the contracts I sign when I take the job require it. But it's also goodwill. No matter what the company does or does not do, you know you've done right. Many times I've seen people give 2 weeks notice and be walked right out the door. As a practice, before I give any notice I've cleaned out all of my stuff, deleted all unnecessary email, etc. just in case the employer gets cranky.

sucks2beme

Sometimes, coming back to work for two weeks is a mistake for all involved.
My son tried to be gracefull at a car dealership he worked at. They announced he was fired on the spot, made a big production for the other employees to see, and made him leave. His boss had been canned a month before, and the new guy had been riding his butt. He started the next day at the new place, and got a bunch of calls from the old shop from guys to see if
there were any more openings where he was. That was the only time he left a job on bad terms.
I never have had that happen to me, but I sure have had some twitchy stuff
occur. I never have been fired or quit, but have transferred inside the company a lot. And been sold off twice. Just switching departments has set off a lot of managers. Had one with 60 days notice, and they waited till the last day to bring in a guy for me to train. I even outsourced my own job once, and the manager was upset I left just before it was complete. Yeah, I'll just hang around to be laid off.

reeltrouble1

Well I will be dammed the same thing happened to my son at a car dealership when he gave notice, to the tee, with the new boss and so on, told to clean out his desk right then. He had worked into a managerial service position and had been there just at five years earning mid five figures. He already had the next position lined up, not that they new that.

Guys I just have to disagree if you think only people who did something bad get fired. I fired lots of people, who had done nothing wrong, its capitalism mixed with company politics. No package either, they were free to hit the unemployment office, most times though the company would try to fight them there as well, most times they would lose, but it did not matter as they were paying the attorney a salary anyhow, anyway, sometimes they would win, sometimes the person just gave up, it was all about money.

These were large National Companies with millions in sales and not fast food or what have you, it was terrible, I worked for three of them, finally just got out of the field, hell, we screwed a customer just as easily. When I look back on it, I recognize this was around the same time CS starting taking a back seat, being outsourced and looked at as a something were costs needed to be cut.

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