Hazleton, PA. grows a pair!

KrazyMofo24

Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:

I wish they would do something around here...

Our population would go down by like... 30%...

The majority of hispanics in your town are not illegal.

Its not as easy as you guys think to get in America legally. I do agree that these immigrants should do whatever it takes to become legal. However they shouldn't be treated like lazy criminals.

1996blackmax

Not all illegals are hispanic.........

F1nut

Its not as easy as you guys think to get in America legally.

Nor should it be.

If you, they, them are an illegal immigrant, you, they, them are a common criminal and should be treated as such.

cfrizz

Jesse, you just gave me a headache!:eek:

F1nut wrote:

Nor should it be.

If you, they, them are an illegal immigrant, you, they, them are a common criminal and should be treated as such.

KrazyMofo24

F1nut wrote:

Nor should it be.

If you, they, them are an illegal immigrant, you, they, them are a common criminal and should be treated as such.

Well we can take out the you, and them from that sentence. What about the ones who enter illegally, then do what they need to do to become legal? Would you still treat them like criminals?

bobman1235

KrazyMofo24 wrote:

The majority of hispanics in your town are not illegal.

Its not as easy as you guys think to get in America legally. I do agree that these immigrants should do whatever it takes to become legal. However they shouldn't be treated like lazy criminals.

Why not? They may not be lazy in some senses, but they are, by definition, criminals.

And once they're legal they're no longer criminals (although they once were, so I guess they're recovering criminals....). But the thing you SHOULD do is be legal before you COME here. If you can't become a citezen, get your green card or work visa, an dwhile you're here LEGALLY, get your citezenship.

1996blackmax

So anybody who has gone over the speed limit is a criminal as they have broken the law .

MacLeod

KrazyMofo24 wrote:

Well we can take out the you, and them from that sentence. What about the ones who enter illegally, then do what they need to do to become legal? Would you still treat them like criminals?

If they enter illegally, theyre criminals. Are they on the same level as a bank robber or rapist? Obviously not, but theyve still broken the law and theyre still in this country illegally. And if caught they should be deported.

F1nut

What about the ones who enter illegally, then do what they need to do to become legal? Would you still treat them like criminals?

What did they do to become legal, go back home and start the process legally or did they commit additional fraud in the process to become legal. If the latter, they should be stripped of their citizenship and deported.

brettw22

1996blackmax wrote:

So anybody who has gone over the speed limit is a criminal as they have broken the law .

As a legal citizen of this country, I pay a ticket and deal with my insurance. As an illegal occupier of this country, they get a paid one way ticket back home along with a subcutaneous tracking chip.

lomic

If I have to pay $10/gal for orange juice this year, my opinion of illegal immigration may shift slightly.

brettw22

Quit drinking OJ if they choose to rape you........people seem to think they have no power over any of this stuff.

1996blackmax

brettw22 wrote:

As a legal citizen of this country, I pay a ticket and deal with my insurance. As an illegal occupier of this country, they get a paid one way ticket back home along with a subcutaneous tracking chip.

What about when you speed and don't get caught, you are still breaking the law. Does breaking the law make you a criminal?



I believe we need to focus more energy on illegal immigration, alot more. I do not believe in implanting chips under someones skin. I believe that goes along the lines of putting a tattoo on someone, and we all know who did that......

brettw22

People trying to make the correlation between speeding and illegal immigration aren't doing a very good job at making an intelligent point.......

1996blackmax

I thought I read something about when you break the law that you are a criminal. Are these things at the same level, ofcourse not. I was actually having a little fun here.

Your idea about implanting chips under a person's skin is just absurd, not very intelligent at all.


It's me you are trying to insult, not people. Grow a pair and say it......

brettw22

The speeding point has been made in several of the Illegal Immigrant threads that have been done here........I don't remember who specifically made the point in the others, thus the "People".......if you're making the same comment over and over like that then ya, "you're" making a stupid arguement.

I don't always stop before the white line at a red light. I must be equated to a rapist too.

I'm not saying I don't deserve a ticket if that deserves a ticket, but don't hold legal americans to a standard that you aren't going to hold ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS to rather than justifying their existence here by saying they deserve to be here because I parked 13" off the curb. If that doesn't sound like a 'stupid arguement' to you, then there are bigger issues to deal with.

1996blackmax

You are talking about stupid, I was having that discussion with you.

When the heck did I say they deserve to be here? Short term memory problems?

You are full of it. I have already stated that it is not at the same level, if this is beyond you then there is not much more I can say .....

brettw22

What your'e not getting is that there ARE people that use the speeding arguement to justify illegals. I don't find the sarcasm in it at all.

1996blackmax

I was not using it for that, just having a little fun on this online forum.

I am not for illegal immigration one bit. I know that immigration must be controlled. We cannot just allow anyone to come into this country. I believe this is extremely important due to both the threat of terrorism, and the drain on our monetary resources. That is my stance.

jdhdiggs

Here, let me help you:

If you are speeding, you should get a ticket. If you are not caught, you don't get one but you still broke the law. Yes, you are a criminal

If you are here illegally, you should be deported. If you are not caught, so be it. Yes, you are a criminal.

Here's the difference: scale. Stealing a pencil should result in less of a penalty than raping and murdering someone. Same thing here, speeding you get a small fine, do it too much and your driving privelage is removed. Come to the country illegally, get deported. Do it twice, spend time in prison in your host country.

No community services should be offerred to these people beyond life saving medical care and two illegals having a child in the US should have that child fall under the law the US provides for ambassadors and the child is of the legal nationality of the parents and not a US citzen...

And as for those people who say that these illegals should be made citizens since we can't round them up, BS. Do like Hazleton is doing. Make it impossible to hire or house these people but offer them free rides out of the country. Oughtta work. We could start a guest worker program where you apply and get ID cards from a US embassy in your original country if we really do need the cheap labor.

1996blackmax

No help needed .

exalted512

KrazyMofo24 wrote:

Well we can take out the you, and them from that sentence. What about the ones who enter illegally, then do what they need to do to become legal? Would you still treat them like criminals?

If someone gets into your house with the intent to steal something, you catch them and they run away empty handed, does that not mean theyre criminals since they didnt steal anything?

read-alot

exalted512 wrote:

If someone gets into your house with the intent to steal something, you catch them and they run away empty handed, does that not mean theyre criminals since they didnt steal anything?

Nah they wouldn't be criminals anymore - They would be DEAD.

sign in my yard
" If found here at night you will be found here in the morning "

Demiurge

Speeding isn't a criminal offense, so why even use the argument?

MacLeod

Right! Not all crime are "criminal". As stupid as that sounds its true. If you Jay walk, youre not a criminal. If you crank your stereo up too loud and piss of the neighbors youre not a criminal (although you should be shot) if you shoplift, youre a criminal.

You want to equate illegal immigration to a crime, do it to shoplifting. Theyre about on the same level and both are misdemeanors (if under $500).

rskarvan

I say... lets round them up, and put them on a plane to IRAQ. They can find their own way back to Mexico.