The outlaw has arrived!!

faster100
faster100 Posts: 6,124
edited July 2006 in Electronics
Ok i think i just blew out my back and **** my flat hat!! My amp arrived a day early and damm this thing is heavy... 60 lbs and a monster pics to come

can ya tell i'm alittle excited.. i started a new thread beings i'll be posting pics, reviews and such..
MY HT RIG:
Sherwood p-965
Sherwood sd871 dvd
Rotel 1075 amp x5
LSI15 mains
LsiC center
LSIfx surround backs
Lsi7 side surrounds
SVS pb12/plus2

2 Channel Rig:

nad 1020 Pre-amp
Rotel 1080 stereo amp
Polk sda 2B
kenwood grunt Tuner
realistic lab 450 TT
Signal cable IC
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  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited July 2006
    Congtrats! Post some pics..pics..pics!!
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited July 2006
    Can't wait to hear what you think of the LSIs now, Cliff.
    Sharp Elite 70
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    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2006
    just got it hooked up minutes ago.. sounds good but i havent popped in a dvd yet to really hear them.. The volume on the denon seems to need to be alot higher then when i used it as a receiver. i did calibrate everything already also.. is this normal?

    next is a new rack.. we looked high and low and couldn't find one locally we liked
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
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  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited July 2006
    faster100 wrote:
    just got it hooked up minutes ago.. sounds good but i havent popped in a dvd yet to really hear them.. The volume on the denon seems to need to be alot higher then when i used it as a receiver. i did calibrate everything already also.. is this normal?

    When I hooked up my Carver and re-calibrated, I had to lower the channel levels on my HK from +3 (level calibrated with no separate amp) to -4 (w/ the amp).
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2006
    Mine stayed about the same but require the master volume control to be alot higher.. well see when i watch a dvd.
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
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  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited July 2006
    faster100 wrote:
    Mine stayed about the same but require the master volume control to be alot higher.. well see when i watch a dvd.

    Could be a lower voltage level output on the Denon's pre-out
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
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  • BlueMDPicker
    BlueMDPicker Posts: 7,569
    edited July 2006
    Very nice, Cliff! Enjoy!!
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited July 2006
    Mike682 wrote:
    Could a lower voltage level output on the Denon's pre-out

    Thats probably it...
    ***WAREMTAE***
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited July 2006
    Mike682 wrote:
    Could be a lower voltage level output on the Denon's pre-out

    Yep. Outlaw has 2 volt input sensitivity. Won't hurt anything, you just have ot crank the volume a little more.
    Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
    Gallo Ref AV, Frankengallo Ref 3, LC60i : Bryston 9b SST : Meridian 565
    Jordan JX92s : MF X-T100 : Xray v8
    Backburner:Krell KAV-300i
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  • MattN03
    MattN03 Posts: 558
    edited July 2006
    Cool, I'd be interested in a review too.
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  • thehaens@cox.net
    thehaens@cox.net Posts: 1,012
    edited July 2006
    faster100 wrote:
    just got it hooked up minutes ago.. sounds good but i havent popped in a dvd yet to really hear them.. The volume on the denon seems to need to be alot higher then when i used it as a receiver. i did calibrate everything already also.. is this normal?

    next is a new rack.. we looked high and low and couldn't find one locally we liked

    As some have noted before, it is your level out on your Denon. The same scenario a friend had with his Denon. I swapped out his Denon w/ my Sony Pre and the sound was a lot louder. So he went out and bought a dedicated Nakamichi Pre for his amp. The issue was solved.

    Scott
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2006
    awesome guys!! Thanks for the info... On dvd it seems pretty close to normal.. popped in terminator to demo.. Now i need my new SVS!!! man sucks without a sub. I gotta save, save, for the sub
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited July 2006
    MattN03 wrote:
    Cool, I'd be interested in a review too.

    Matt..
    Couldn't help but notice your system was coming together quite nicely. Nice pics in the showcase:) When did ya snag that Rotel?
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited July 2006
    And freaking A' Cliff!!!!

    You're shining now with that badboy:D

    Congrats:)
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2006
    watched a few demo's and the outlaw certainly has alot more slam then the denon internal amps.. Very neutral amp as far as i can tell so far.. I say again this amp is heavy as hell.. My parasound 1200 didn't weigh what this thing does. The fed ex "lady" must have had a heck of a walk across my 50' + front yard with this thing..

    These Lsi15's have some major bass that i never thought could come from a tower.. I thought we had a sub in a few parts of the movie..
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
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  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,576
    edited July 2006
    faster100 wrote:
    The volume on the denon seems to need to be alot higher then when i used it as a receiver.

    Did you figure out what was causing this. Is it only on certain inputs or is it on everything that plays threw the receiver?
    Money Talks, Mine says Goodbye Rob!!!!
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2006
    It seemed like that on tv broadcast and dvr recorded stuff.. which seems to need higher volume anyway.. The dvd playback was normal.. im used to the denon sound for what, 2 -3 years so it was just different at first.. Think it might be ok, just getting used to different sound and drive..
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
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  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,576
    edited July 2006
    Was it the improvement you were looking for? I'm stuck between just ordering the 7125 to add to my 3805 or just go ahead and order the 990/7700 combo. I may just add the 7125 to my current setup due to just finding out today I may have to spend $4000 on a new a/c for the house. Beings I'm only downstairs like once a week to watch movies I'm thinking it may be more cost effective just to by the 7125 and save myself $2000.
    Money Talks, Mine says Goodbye Rob!!!!
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited July 2006
    Cliff,, congatulations on your new aquisition :)
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • malikarshad
    malikarshad Posts: 527
    edited July 2006
    faster100 wrote:
    The volume on the denon seems to need to be alot higher then when i used it as a receiver. i did calibrate everything already also.. is this normal?
    When I switched to Outlaw 770 amp my speaker levels were higher than Denon 3803 for my LSi setup.
    Congrats and enjoy!! I'm still enjoying mine though I feel I should upgrade 3803 to a separate pre-amp.

    Speakers=>Salk Soundscape 8, Soundscape Center,Surrounds-Dali Rubicon LCR, Lsi7
    PreAmp, Amp => Marantz AV8801, ATI 6007 amp, Oppo HA-1 DAC
    Source => Sonore MicroRendu, Oppo BDP-103, Mede8er 600XD, Dune HD Smart D1, Synology DS1813+(16TB)
    Sub - JTR Captivator S2 (Dual 18")
    Power - Furman IT-Ref20i on dedicated 30Amp circuit with Furutech GTX-R outlet
    Screen=> JVC RS-45 projector Da-Lite HP 133" 2.35
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited July 2006
    congrats on your new slammin' amp!!

    enjoy
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited July 2006
    Rock on!
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited July 2006
    Congrats on the new amp. Don't you just love getting that new piece of gear?
    Michael ;)
    In the beginning, all knowledge was new!
    NORTH of 60°
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited July 2006
    ...and doesn't new audio smell good?
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited July 2006
    malikarshad wrote:
    When I switched to Outlaw 770 amp my speaker levels were higher than Denon 3803 for my LSi setup.
    Congrats and enjoy!! I'm still enjoying mine though I feel I should upgrade 3803 to a separate pre-amp.

    Ditto with my Onkyo and RTi's. Congrats on your new purchase.
    Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
    __________________________________________
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    Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
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    PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
    PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
    PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited July 2006
    faster100 wrote:
    It seemed like that on tv broadcast and dvr recorded stuff.. which seems to need higher volume anyway.. The dvd playback was normal.. im used to the denon sound for what, 2 -3 years so it was just different at first.. Think it might be ok, just getting used to different sound and drive..

    This is weird:
    http://usa.denon.com/AVR3803_ownersmanual.pdf

    So the output from digital sources is 2v, but from analog is 1.2... That would explain the differences that you're hearing.
    Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
    Gallo Ref AV, Frankengallo Ref 3, LC60i : Bryston 9b SST : Meridian 565
    Jordan JX92s : MF X-T100 : Xray v8
    Backburner:Krell KAV-300i
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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,341
    edited July 2006
    Congrats on your new Outlaw amp Cliff. I hope you have good luck with it. Enjoy!
    Carl

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  • speakergeek
    speakergeek Posts: 555
    edited July 2006
    My quandry: A new SVS PB-12 plus or an outlaw 7125? It will be one or the other. I'm quite satisfied with the sound of my Pioneer VSX-1015TX, but was wondering if the 7125 would give me more of a boost than if I went with a bigger and better sub? It would replace my PSW650. Any suggestions? Not trying to hijack the thread, but it seems like a good place to post since there is discussion of the 7125.

    Faster, Congrats. Very nice amp you have there.
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  • speakergeek
    speakergeek Posts: 555
    edited July 2006
    steveinaz wrote:
    ...and doesn't new audio smell good?

    Man, I love that smell. :p
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  • millerman 3732
    millerman 3732 Posts: 1,488
    edited July 2006
    never mind i read you sig
    Casey
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    Toshiba HD-XA2 (HD-DVD, CD)
    Onkyo 805 (pre-amp)
    Outlaw 7125
    Polk RTi 10 (bi-amped)
    Polk CSi5 (bi-amped)
    Polk RTi6
    SVS PB 12 plus/2
    Velodyne SMS-1

    TV Rig: Samsung 50'' 4k display
    Polk Signa-1 Surround bar
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