Cables

audiobliss

Awesome. Glad you got 'em. I think they look great, too, for whatever that's worth.

exalted512

even my g/f just said, "Usually people praise stuff after they use em instead of before they buy em"


-Cody

Greg Peters

MacLeod wrote:

Well I got suckered into them because those Monster Cables were cheaper and didnt have all the fancy "noise rejection techonolgy" yet they were 100% noise free. I just figured the LA's wouldve been too.

No matter, I really dig these JL cables and will stick with them from now on. Excellent construction and a pretty good price.

You mean the salesman never tried to explain to you the cables will only work on a 300/4 and a 500/1???

MacLeod

exalted512 wrote:

even my g/f just said, "Usually people praise stuff after they use em instead of before they buy em"


-Cody

Tell her to get back in the kitchen!

Greg Peters wrote:

You mean the salesman never tried to explain to you the cables will only work on a 300/4 and a 500/1???

I do a ton of business with Tweeter so theyre getting to know me there. I buy most of my stuff from them and often go in there just to listen to the RTi speakers and dream. They dont mess with me much cause they know I know as much as they do about this stuff (most of the time more...which aint saying much) and theyre not going to sucker me into anything....I can do that on my own!

exalted512

MacLeod wrote:

Tell her to get back in the kitchen!

after you tell your wife that!

MacLeod

exalted512 wrote:

after you tell your wife that!

I aint skeered of my wife! You saw how I handled her the other day. I needed $60 so I went in there and told her how it was going to be. Hmmph.

Boy these cables are so great! How great are they?! Well the MECA CD has a slight hiss to it that is really hard to pick up. Ive never been able to, but now all of a sudden, I can. I suppose the JL's have less resistance to them and its allowing for a stronger signal. Enough so that the hiss is coming thru.

I dunno. Maybe I just never noticed it before.

exalted512

so what youre saying is cables do make a difference in SQ?

Maybe JL burns in their cables before they send em out;)
-Cody

MacLeod

LOL!!!

No, what Im saying is what Ive always said. Cables make a difference in so far as noise rejection and signal strength.

Tonally, these sound EXACTLY like my Monsters and Lightnings did. The ONLY difference are noise (or a lack thereof) and an apparant stronger signal (which still couldve been my lack of attention to the hiss before).

One thing I thought Id pass on especially to you, Cody, but it may not be news to you.

Before, I always ran the RCA's down from behind the head unit, down behind the dash and drop them out just to the right of the cupholder flipout thingy. Well this is a huge **** because its EXTREMELY tight in there and it is a pain and its very possible to get one hung which is what happened to me and started all this cable mess. Well, the 4 channel cables wouldnt fit that way so I looked for another way in.

The glovebox on 02 and up Rams pops out very easily and behind it is a huge hole that you can stick your hand into. All you have to do is run the cable up by the kick panel, reach down thru the hole and pull them thru. Then you reach thru another hole right below the AC vent immediately to the right of the HU and pull it thru and then reach down from behind the HU and pull it the rest of the way up. It used to take me 15-30 minutes to run one pair of cables. This way, I did all 3 in 15 minutes.

Just thought Id pass that on to everybody in case you ever have to install in a 02 Ram.

1996blackmax

I hope my next car is as easy to take apart as my Maxima . I've changed out things a couple of times when I've had a friend over. They are pretty surprised how quickly I can do it. I just tell them it's not me, it's just that it's so easy to take apart my car.

Greg Peters

MacLeod wrote:

I do a ton of business with Tweeter so theyre getting to know me there. I buy most of my stuff from them and often go in there just to listen to the RTi speakers and dream. They dont mess with me much cause they know I know as much as they do about this stuff (most of the time more...which aint saying much) and theyre not going to sucker me into anything....I can do that on my own!

That wasn't meant to be a jab at you, just a wink at the "typical" JL salesdude mentality.

I actually met a salesman in a store that sells a lot of JL product who "told it like it is". While he had a bunch of JL in his personal car, he never badmouthed good products from other manufacturers in a bid to get you to buy all JL equipment, was very well-informed (and would give pretty good pricing to regular customers too). He's gone now. Management must have objected to his style. His replacements are much more brainwashed.

exalted512

or you could do it the opposite way and go down below the instrument cluster, thats the way i do it in those trucks
-Cody

MacLeod

exalted512 wrote:

or you could do it the opposite way and go down below the instrument cluster, thats the way i do it in those trucks
-Cody

Yeah but I run my power wire down that side and I like to keep my cables far away from my power wires, plus it shortens the distance which means not having to pay for longer cables.

exalted512

car audio is full of myths
-Cody

MacLeod

Yeah, I know thats supposed to be one but then again, I did pick up a headlight hum, brake light pop AND an alternator whine simply by using certain cables and then got rid of all that with another type of cable. Obviously, induced noise does exist.

exalted512

but not from power wire;)
-Cody

MacLeod

Better safe than sorry.

exalted512

yup, so you better put on your foil helmet so the aliens cant read your mind too:D
-Cody

MacLeod

Way ahead of ya!

1996blackmax

I always wondered about you.......

HiPerf360

JL and buying from Walmart????

What wrong Mac???

1996blackmax

He is just getting older. Hey Mac, Happy Belated Birthday ! I was going to post earlier in the thread, but had to tend to my 5 year old.

MacLeod

I didnt buy from Walmart, I was just thinking about it. And Ive always loved JL.

exalted512

MacLeod wrote:

And Ive always loved JL.

misguided as that may be;)
-Cody

MacLeod

And how many first place SQ trophies do you have? And how many SQ classes are you currently leading in points?

1996blackmax

Just because some people do not compete does not mean that their systems are not up to par .

MacLeod

Yes it does.

My system is better than yours. Neener neener neener!

1996blackmax

Don't think so . Heck even my system from the late 90's was better . You just barely came around to the T.A. thing. Something I was using even back then.


Neenenener neeeeener x infinity....

MacLeod

I still think TA is cheating. But ya know what they say; if ya cant beat em, join em.

exalted512

MacLeod wrote:

And how many first place SQ trophies do you have? And how many SQ classes are you currently leading in points?

and how many do you have using JL equipment?
-Cody

MacLeod

Touche.

Well I did manage to tie that dude yesterday with the $10,000 install, 20,000 band EQ and 4 world champs tuning his system for him! I was pretty happy about that......and it was the JL cables that made the difference!

Nah, its these SR's that make the difference. You wouldnt believe how LITTLE EQ'ing mine have. Virtually everything is barely a notch or two above flat.

I still need that 31 band EQ to bring out the finer points tho...and a bigger amp to bring out the bass more. That MM2104 just has a hard time hitting below 40 Hz in that box. I figure if I move up to a Crossfire 402 (extra 125 watts) that should help make up for the smallish box.