air compressors, table saws, and storage sheds

exalted512

Hey guys, I'm in the market for both of these right now.

First off, storage sheds. Lowe's and Sears both sell Arrow storage buildings
link>>http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/search.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&compare=&prodCount=&poid_0=&poid_1=&poid_2=&poid_3=&poid_4=&poid_5=&poid_6=&poid_7=&poid_8=&poid_9=&poid_10=&poid_11=&pageNum=&keyword=arrow+storage+buildings&vertical=LAWN&page=&sort=&order=&beginValue=&endValue=&subcategoryid=&catID=&sortBy=PRICE_LOW_TO_HIGH&viewItems=60
I was looking at the small 10x6 for $199.95. Its not as tall as id like, but itll due. I believe I saw one at Sears that was 10x12 and was taller for the same $200 price tag. Does anyone have any comments/suggestions on these type of buildings??

I'm looking for something cheap, durable, and at least 6x8x5'8" tall(thats what the ones im looking at are).

table saws-
havent really researched these much. I use full sheets of 3/4" mdf a lot and always have to use a circular saw to make a lot of the cuts, I'd like to get a table saw capable of cutting a 4'x8' sheet of mdf in half accurately. I dont even know if they make something like that for a regular table saw, but thought id ask anyway.

Moving on to air compressors, I was looking at the 60 gallon stand up models from husky, craftsman, and ingersoll rand. Is ingersoll rand really that good?

Im not really sure if I need something as big as 60 gallon though. I think the portable 30ish gallons might work as well. I'll be using it for air sockets, impact wrenches, air saws, things of that sort. The thing I DONT want is 220V input. I want 110V. I was looking on tsc's website and saw the ingersoll rand 60 gallons were all 220V. I dont know if all the 60 gallons from other brands are the same, but I do realize that its probably 220V because it requires a lot of power and trying to get a lot of power out of a 110V plug isnt that safe. So that right there might limit me to the 30ish gallon portables.

Does anyone have any preferences on these?

thanks
-Cody

dorokusai

10x6 is way too small. I installed an Arrow 10x8 shed a year or so ago and have been really pleased. Definetly make sure the doors are human height, I barely drop my head to walk-inside and the inside should be taller than yourself. It makes it much easier to utilize the space as well as getting in and out.

Wait until you see how many screws you will be turning

exalted512

yea, i saw one at home depot that im pretty sure im going to get. It has the barn-type roof and its 10'x8'. I like the height a lot better than the one that lowes had, this one is $300, plus ill have to make a floor for it.

thanks for the input.
-Cody

Mazeroth

For the table saw, look no further than the Ryobi BT3100. The best table saw you can get for under $300, bar none. There are many fan sites for it, but the internet addresses have escaped me.

MattN03

I have a 33 gallon Craftsman vertical air compressor and it's got plenty of capacity for the weekend warrior. I've used the impact quite a bit while working on my vehicles and the compressor always kept up. The only downside to the Craftman is the noise. This sucker is simply loud-especially when it's echoing inside the garage

F1nut

A good table saw will have table extensions you can buy to do full sheets. The 30ish gallon compressors will work fine, but will run a lot more than a 60.

shepx2

Ingersol Rand is OK, but I wouldn't pay a big premium for it. I have never messed with their Air COmpressors, but use their air tools a lot at work; drills, high-speeds, etc, and they are decent but not built like I would think for the price.

scottnbnj

check the door height on the sears. i came close on one with the high ceiling height there, but found that the door height was silly low. i ended up with the arrow estator. it's a bit above the prices you're looking at at about $600 w/o the floor, but is 10X9, with a wide door opening that's 68" high and was pretty easy to beef up and fabricate several additional shelves for. i'm pretty happy with it and i'm glad i bumped up my price range to get it.

for cutting full sheets on a portable tablesaw well, more important than the tablesaw itself, you want extension tables around the saw and probably an upgraded fence. i have a rousseau portamax stand and extension that's held up pretty well, but even with that you'll also need an outfeed table too (this part is pretty easy to throw together yourself though).

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exalted512

thanks guys. I do have a question, what is an upgraded fence?? My budget for a table saw is around $700, so I can shoot any where around there, including the base saw, plus an upgraded fence and extensions
-Cody

exalted512

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?cat=Bench+Power+Tools&pid=00921829000&vertical=TOOL&subcat=Table+Saws&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?cat=Power+Tool+Accessories&pid=00901206000&vertical=TOOL&subcat=Table+Saw&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes
would that be a good combination?
or maybe this one?
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?vertical=TOOL&cat=Bench+Power+Tools&subcat=Table+Saws&pid=00921806000&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes

Most of my tools are craftsman and ive never had a problem with em, so im partial to them, but not necessarily stuck on them.
-Cody

phoneisbusy

Hi Cody,

Is there a reason why you're looking at portable tablesaws? i.e. space and storage considerations? If you're planning on cutting lots of 4x8 sheets of mdf, you probably want a cabinet saw. You might consider building outfeed and extension tables too.

I don't know too much so take it for what it's worth.

regards

Dave

exalted512

because sometimes i build the boxes on site or in the car and a portable one makes more sense for that
-Cody

VR3

You build stuff IN a car?

exalted512

yea, sometimes the boxes have to be built into the car. I dont put the table saw in the car and saw the wood in there, but I know you have more common sense to think that sid;)
-Cody

unc2701

Like everyone has said, extension tables & a quality fence are best for cutting large sheets of material...

However, you might want to look at a circular saw rail system- very affordable compared to a cabinet saw and much less likely to take off your hand.

http://www.toolfetch.com/Category/Panel_Saws/Saw_Guide_Systems/sgs-1.htm

Grimster74

I built my 12' x 16' shed over two years ago and if you plan on doing alot of wood working as I do, a 12' x 16' isn't going to be large enough. As far as table saws go, you will definately want something that can open up enough to accomidate a 4' x 8' sheet of plywood. Pay really close attention to the way the side extensions lock down also. I had a craftsman table saw that the extensions didn't lock down really tight and when ripping a piece of plywood the guide decided to walk causing the wood to bind a damn near lost a finger. I currently have a Grizzly table saw (220v) but it's a little out of your price range your looking for. As far as compressors, when building sheds for people, I use the hell out of my Porter Cable 6 gallon pancake compressor with no problems at all. Here is a link to the table saw I use just in case you wanted to know.

http://www.grizzly.com/products/G7210

Here is another link of the smaller table saws Grizzly makes in case you are interested.

http://www.grizzly.com/products/category.aspx?key=530000

BIZILL

i have the 33 gallon vertical compressor from craftsman too. very nice, but noisy. and it's an oil-less type. but it gets things done. always drain after each use as compressed air creates condensation. rusts real quick. and like grimster, i've been checkin' out grizzly products. they seem to be a step below professional, but a step above craftsman type tools and machinery.

exalted512

thanks a lot for all the input guys. I'm pretty sure im going to go with the ingersoll rand 60 gallon air compressor. Theyre 500 at tractor supply co.

I've also made up my mind on the shed, I'm going to go with the $300 one from home depot, ill eventually have shelves on all the sides to stiffen it up.

Now I'm just wondering about the table saw. The circular saw rail system looks extremely interesting. Has anyone used one before?
-Cody

exalted512

Well, they discontinued the one i wanted...of course...So I've been eyeing this one.
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?cat=Bench+Power+Tools&pid=00922114000&vertical=TOOL&subcat=Table+Saws&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes

would that work with this fence?
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?cat=Power+Tool+Accessories&pid=00901206000&vertical=TOOL&subcat=Table+Saw&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes
-Cody

Midnite Mick

I am not an expert on tools but given your budget on the table saw you could pick up a Rigid at home depot. It is quite large and the fence is very strong. It also has wheels so you can move it around as it weighs around 300 pounds. I just purchased one myself. Pain in the **** assembling mind you as the directions aren't great. Home depot has 2 Rigids. The one I am referring to is the large one. Good luck.

Mike

madmax

The craftsman 2 stage is fairly quiet compared to the single stage ones. Cost a little more but the sound can be tolerated. Those single stage ones will vibrate you out of your skin if you are in a room with them. Belt drive ones are quieter yet but even more expensive. I can use my 2 stage outside and not bother the close neighbors.
madmax

exalted512

Midnite Mick wrote:

I am not an expert on tools but given your budget on the table saw you could pick up a Rigid at home depot. It is quite large and the fence is very strong. It also has wheels so you can move it around as it weighs around 300 pounds. I just purchased one myself. Pain in the **** assembling mind you as the directions aren't great. Home depot has 2 Rigids. The one I am referring to is the large one. Good luck.

Mike

thanks, youve just changed my mind again:p

I really like that one. Has all the perks that the craftsman has, but has a bigger rip capacity, on one side at least. But I'd rather have 12" and 36" than 24" and 25". I could probably get by without an additional fense. That and the fact that it has a way to easily move it has me pretty much sold. All that AND its cheaper...seems like a win win to me. But one of the things that drew me in to the craftsman is that sears has a 6 months interest free credit card. Does anyone know if home depot has that? Even if they dont, I'll probably just wait to get that one. Looks great to me.

I've also changed my mind on the storage building...lol. I found an actual wooden one at home depot for $598. I like it about 300x better, I was just worried about the cost. The only thing is, it doesnt come with anything for the roof (no shingles, no tin, no anything) or a floor. The floor kit is $200. I can build a floor though, thats not a problem. Roofing presents a problem. From what the lady told me, the roof is just untreated plywood. I know I can get a wood sealer(would just a regular deck sealer work for this?) to seal it off. My question is, will just painting it be good enough or do I need to put shingles or tin on it? How long can I wait to put that stuff on top? I'm guessing tin would be easier and cheaper, but ive never installed it, is it as easy as it seems it would be? Just screw it down with the special tin screws? Also, what do you use for the top where the two sides meet? I'm guessing theres something special for that.

For the air compressor, ive been eyeing this one:
http://www.mytscstore.com/detail.asp?pcID=1&paID=1010&sonID=469&page=1&productID=2495

are those pretty quiet?
thanks for all your help
-Cody

Midnite Mick

FYI..Home Depot does have do not pay for 6 months when you use they're card as well.

Although I don't have any personal experience with the shed but I know somebody that was shopping for one before. He compared ones from Home Depot and ones from Star building materials and Star had more for less. I don't know if Star Building Material is strictly a Canadian company however. Good luck.

Mike

BIZILL

exalted512 wrote:

For the air compressor, ive been eyeing this one:
http://www.mytscstore.com/detail.asp?pcID=1&paID=1010&sonID=469&page=1&productID=2495

are those pretty quiet?
thanks for all your help
-Cody

thought you didn't want 220v.

Polkitup2

I concur with Mazeroth on the Ryobi BT3100. I have one and it is one great saw for the price. Its rip fence is far more sturdy and accurate than many saws I looked at costing hundreds more.

tryrrthg

Another vote for the Ryobi BT3100. Unbeatable saw for the money!

amulford

If you want a wood shop, I think you're going to need more space.

exalted512

glad to hear home depot has the same 6 months of no payments. Thatll work great, i should be able to pay it off by the middle of next month anyway.

I havent seen anything on star buildings around here. the only ones i can find around here are at home depot, sears, and lowes. But does anyone know about the roof???

I was leaning against 220V, but for something that big, I realized you have to go 220V, so thats just something ill have to live with:D

As far as more space, I dont have the room for a bigger building right now. Im renting a place so I still have to clear it with them or I might not get any of this:( Plus, any bigger than that Ill have to get a building permit.

thanks for all your help guys, I really appreciate it, my last question is about the roofing though????
-Cody

exalted512

ended up going with a grizzly 10x8 wooden shed. I'm going to make the floor and paint the top for the time being. For the weather proofing for the top, cost of the building, and materials for the floor, grand total was $880. Once this is up, im getting the table saw. Then I'll have to wait a while on the compressor.
-Cody

maggiefan

Cody, I don't know how much a bundle of shingles cost but it sure wouldn't take very many to cover that size roof. Would look and protect a lot better that paint.

exalted512

After I get my table saw and air compressor, I'll be getting tin for the roof. I dont think much will happen to the roof in 1-2 months, especially when its sealed.
-Cody