Full 7.1 LSi vs. Axiom Audio...

Snagglepuss1318
Snagglepuss1318 Posts: 61
edited July 2006 in Speakers
Im pretty set on buying a Polk Lsi 7.1 system.
15s, C, FXs, 9s, SVS Plus/2

A neighbor of mine is purchasing an Axiom system around the same price range. http://www.axiomaudio.com/epic80_600main.html#

Anyone know about these speakers? Which system is better?
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited July 2006
    Lsi :)
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited July 2006
    Apples and oranges.

    If you're gonna do a comparison, Axiom should be compared to the RTi series, not Lsi.
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  • polkyphil38
    polkyphil38 Posts: 447
    edited July 2006
    Early B. wrote:
    Apples and oranges.

    If you're gonna do a comparison, Axiom should be compared to the RTi series, not Lsi.
    I totally agree with the exception of the Epic 600 powered subwoofer. It is absolutely stunning. Guess I will just have to stick with my Mirage S12.....imho it is also amazing. Have a great day people.:) :)
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  • 2+2
    2+2 Posts: 546
    edited July 2006
    Early B. wrote:
    Apples and oranges.

    If you're gonna do a comparison, Axiom should be compared to the RTi series, not Lsi.

    I disagree...Axioms should be compared to the Monitor series....they are extremely bright speakers....Monitors are probabily built better too...
    System 1: Martin Logan Vantage, Rotel RC 1070, B&K Reference 200.2, Music Hall DAC 15.2, Yamaha 2300

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    System 3: LSi7, Yamaha SW215, Music Hall Maven, Music Hall MMF CD25 w/627opamps

    System 4: RTi100, Harman Kardon AVR 230, Panasonic DVD
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  • gregure
    gregure Posts: 871
    edited July 2006
    Let's see:

    Laminate, bright speakers with cheap drivers and foam-bordered ports

    or

    Laquer finished wood cabinets with ring radiator tweeters and a much better build quality.

    Hmm?

    Sorry, it may be a bit biased but the LSi are a much better speaker line. The tweeter alone is quite apart from tweeters in that price range, and more akin to higher end speakers. The LSi are much more musical, open and warm, and would offer better dynamics for theater experiences as well. I say go LSi and don't get suckered in by a crap company's superior advertising. Ever heard of Bose? Have you ever actually heard music played from them? One of the most disparate examples in all of electronics: Extremely popular due to marketing, but pretty damn terrible in quality.

    Only thing: if you want to get great performance out of the LSi's treat them to good amplification and speaker cables. If you're going Denon 3806 and Monster XP cables, don't waste your money on great speakers, cause they won't sound great.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited July 2006
    When you can buy a speaker with 3 drivers (two of which are midbasses), that is also a decent size and it STILL weighs under 20 pounds...

    SOMETHING should send up red flags.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • mulveling
    mulveling Posts: 505
    edited July 2006
    Can't speak on the sound of the Axioms, but the LSi's will look way way better, way better built, and sound great. They're an incredible bargain at used prices if you can snag 'em.
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited July 2006
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:
    When you can buy a speaker with 3 drivers (two of which are midbasses), that is also a decent size and it STILL weighs under 20 pounds...

    SOMETHING should send up red flags.

    rightO.

    hell the small rti4's weigh 15lbs with a tweet and one 5 1/4".
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,753
    edited July 2006
    John K. owns Axiom's, 'Nuff said!!!
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited July 2006
    F1nut wrote:
    John K. owns Axiom's, 'Nuff said!!!

    John K?
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  • dipiazza
    dipiazza Posts: 363
    edited July 2006
    When you can buy a speaker with 3 drivers (two of which are midbasses), that is also a decent size and it STILL weighs under 20 pounds...

    Which axiom are you refering to? I didnt see any in that set under 20 pounds.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited July 2006
    Millennia M22 Specifications
    Enclosure:

    Vortex / Reflex
    Max Amp Power:

    200 Watts
    Min Amp Power:
    10 Watts
    Freq Resp +/-3dB:

    60 - 22kHz Graph
    Freq Resp +3dB- 9dB:

    50 - 22kHz
    Impedance (Ohms):

    8 Ohms
    SPL in Room1w/1m:

    93 dB
    SPL Anechoic 1w/1m:

    89 dB
    X-Over
    3.5 kHz
    Tweeter:

    Single 1"
    Woofer:

    Dual 5.25"
    Sub Woofer :

    Dimens. H W D (inches):

    19.8" x 7.3" x 8"
    Dimens. H W D (mm):

    503 x 185 x 203
    Weight (lbs) each

    16 lbs
    Weight (kg) each
    7.257 kg

    16 pounds...
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  • dipiazza
    dipiazza Posts: 363
    edited July 2006
    Thats not in the Epic 80-600 system though is it?

    http://www.axiomaudio.com/epic80_600main.html#

    Correct me if im wrong
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    TV: Vizio VX32L
    Reciever: Pioneer VSX-D914
    HD-DVD Player: Toshiba HD-A2
    Fronts: Polk R50s
    Surounds: Polk R30s
    Center: Polk R20's
    Subwoofer: SVS 20-39PCi

    2CH Setup
    Integrated: Onix SP3 Tube
    CD Player: Sony CDP-CX355
    Speakers: Onix Strata Mini in PR Finish
    Signal Cable: Classic Speaker, Analog 1 IC

    Headphones
    Grado SR 60, Bang & Olufsen A8, Shure e3

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited July 2006
    No reason to correct...

    That one speaker in particular speaks of Axiom's build quality through out the entire line up.

    Cheap finishes, cheap everything.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • dipiazza
    dipiazza Posts: 363
    edited July 2006
    Ahh, i see the one you are refering to. However, it is not in the system snaggle is comparing to the LSi.
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    HT Setup
    TV: Vizio VX32L
    Reciever: Pioneer VSX-D914
    HD-DVD Player: Toshiba HD-A2
    Fronts: Polk R50s
    Surounds: Polk R30s
    Center: Polk R20's
    Subwoofer: SVS 20-39PCi

    2CH Setup
    Integrated: Onix SP3 Tube
    CD Player: Sony CDP-CX355
    Speakers: Onix Strata Mini in PR Finish
    Signal Cable: Classic Speaker, Analog 1 IC

    Headphones
    Grado SR 60, Bang & Olufsen A8, Shure e3

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    Onix xls, Dual Onix x-subs, Onix Ref .5, Dahlquist M903, Teac A-1D, Marantz 1060
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  • dipiazza
    dipiazza Posts: 363
    edited July 2006
    No reason to correct...

    That one speaker in particular speaks of Axiom's build quality through out the entire line up.

    Cheap finishes, cheap everything.

    Understandable for sure.
    Terps Swimming!
    HT Setup
    TV: Vizio VX32L
    Reciever: Pioneer VSX-D914
    HD-DVD Player: Toshiba HD-A2
    Fronts: Polk R50s
    Surounds: Polk R30s
    Center: Polk R20's
    Subwoofer: SVS 20-39PCi

    2CH Setup
    Integrated: Onix SP3 Tube
    CD Player: Sony CDP-CX355
    Speakers: Onix Strata Mini in PR Finish
    Signal Cable: Classic Speaker, Analog 1 IC

    Headphones
    Grado SR 60, Bang & Olufsen A8, Shure e3

    Other Stuff in Use
    Onix xls, Dual Onix x-subs, Onix Ref .5, Dahlquist M903, Teac A-1D, Marantz 1060
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited July 2006
    Axiom is known for a few things...

    1) Thin enclosures (alot of resonance)
    2) bright sound
    3) Cheap finishes and overall build...
    4) extremely cheap drivers....
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,753
    edited July 2006
    Holydoc wrote:
    John K?

    Do a search, good for more than a few laughs.
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    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited July 2006
    Lsi's all the way. Just make sure you have the proper amplification for these.
    They're 4 ohms and need alot of clean power (usually over 150 watts per channel from a well designed high amperage amplifier will do nicely).
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited July 2006
    Pshhhhaa..... LSi are far better overall.
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