Dolby Digital 3/2.1 with Local HD signal

disneyjoe7
disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
edited June 2006 in Electronics
Question about Hi Def local OTA signal with Onkyo 898 AVR. I'm watching The Tonight Show right now and DD 3/2.1 will only give L/R speakers nothing center or rear surrounds. My audio signal back to my AVR is by an optical cable out via TV itself. :confused:

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CS400i Center
RT800i's Rears
Sub Paradigm Servo 15

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  • drew spelts
    drew spelts Posts: 310
    edited June 2006
    probably gona need more specifics joe.....
    Harman Kardon AVR635
    RTi10's Up Front
    CSi5 Center
    RTi6's Rear Surround
    Furman RA-1210:rolleyes:
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited June 2006
    Well it's all DD the show it self is DD 3/2.1 so think DD5.1 // commercials DD 2/0 or 2/1 works fine as the receiver then decodes as Pro logic II movie. I never had the problem using my DirecTV box when I watched a movie and it showed DD I could 5.1, but local Hi Def using ant just 2 channel.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited June 2006
    OK to put it another way right now I'm watching "Live with Regis and Kelly" as ant local Hi Def audio is by optical digital out feeding AVR. Sounds is ok as this is really not 5 channels per say but is sent as PCM K so AVR does PLII movie just fine.

    I'm starting to think it's really 2 channels sent as 5.1 messing up AVR, any fixes is another tuner better like Directv recorder HD box?

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • thehaens@cox.net
    thehaens@cox.net Posts: 1,012
    edited June 2006
    Steve.......
    I seen the same problem with an installation I did a while back. w/ a Mitsubishi built in Tuner. It didnt' pass DD for whatever reason. I didn't trouble shoot it to far. But there might be a setting in the TV Audio Menu to pass PCM or DD. But he liked the idea that the DirecTV "Adv. Guide" also had the OTA information on it. So we just ran the SAT and OTA antenna into the DirecTV box, and then out to the reciever. This is also how I have mine set up, and I get DD in all its flavors (5.1/ 2.0 etc.) w/ out any problem.

    Scott
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited June 2006
    Scott,

    What you're using for a DirecTV box? What model?

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited June 2006
    Update the "Tonight Show" NBC (OTA) is transmitted DD5.1 shows DD 3/2.1 really just F'd up 2 channel that my Onkyo says DD5.1 screw you I wouldn't do anything with that you send 5.1 in you get 5.1 out. So this is better using RCA L/R out from TV, the David Letterman show CBS is transmuted DD 2/0 which works fine L/R or optical DD as this will be converted to Pro logic II Movie working all speakers. Sweet :D

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • thehaens@cox.net
    thehaens@cox.net Posts: 1,012
    edited June 2006
    disneyjoe7 wrote:
    Scott,

    What you're using for a DirecTV box? What model?

    I am using the Hughes HR10-250....I read your other post above but had a somewhat difficult time deciphering it. So are you good now?

    Scott
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited June 2006
    Sorry Scott and others,

    The optical audio output works all the time, but some shows which are sent DD 5.1 are not. Where these should be sent as DD 2.0, when this occurs I use the analog L/R outputs instead. I have to find a HD DD5.1 show to see if DD5.1 is really there.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • thehaens@cox.net
    thehaens@cox.net Posts: 1,012
    edited June 2006
    Well then, you have found a fix for your problem. I don't even run my analog audio output to my receiver from the SAT Receiver. I run the analog outs to the TV input only. The only audio output I run to the receiver is the optical. I have the SAT receivers Audio set up for DD out, and my receiver takes care of all the switching needs. If the show is DD 2.0 you still should get sound out from your optical cable.

    All shows that are HD don't necessarily output 5.1, I see you have found this out....

    Scott
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited June 2006
    Scott,

    Funny with my DirecTV TiVo SD recorder I run the optical also and I don't have a problem Sweeeet. But with local OTA HD I did :)

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR