Music Machine for sale

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madmax
madmax Posts: 12,434
edited June 2006 in For Sale (FS) Classifieds
This is a Soundcraftsmen DDR-1200 MOSFET amplifier with 275 wpc into 8 ohms. It is stable to 2 ohms and will drive anything. This amplifier was made in the days when cost of manufacturing didn't matter so much. Quality was the issue of the day and if a 50 pound transformer was better then 50 pounds it was... The original MSRP was around $1600.

I called this a "Music Machine" because it really surpasses the other amplifiers I've had. It has almost as much finesse as my Jolida tube amps, more power than my Manley mono blocks and way more tone than any other solid state amplifier I have ever had. As I sit and listen to it I am just amazed at the soundstage, lack of typical SS noise and to use the same old word again, tone.

If you are just looking for power I suggest getting a Carver or something similar but if you are looking for true high fidelity that you can actually afford, this is the ticket. This unit would be best in a 2 channel setup with tube preamp, a decent source, pretty much any set of speakers and most of all, a person who will appreciate true audiophile sound.

I'm pretty firm on this items price as they typically go for at least that much in poor condition. The weight is easily at least 60 pounds so take that into consideration pertaining to shipping cost. I will take the time to package appropriately.

Sold!

Thanks for looking!
madmax

Edit: There are a few marks here and there around the case but the front is excellent. The big handles have some small marks but are not conspicuous. It presents itself well and will look at home with other expensive equipment.
Vinyl, the final frontier...

Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • I-SIG
    I-SIG Posts: 2,238
    edited June 2006
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    Would this be an upgrade or a lateral from my HCA-2200 (original version)?

    Wes
    Link: http://polkarmy.com/forums

    Panasonic TH-42PHD8UK 42" HDTV | Polk Audio SDA-SRS's (w/RDO's & Vampire Posts) + SVS PC+ 25-31 | AudioQuest Granite (mids) + BWA Silver (highs) | Cary Audio CAD-200 | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Wyred 4 Sound STP/SE Pre | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Cambridge Audio azur 840C--Wadia 170i + iPod jammed w/ lossless audio--Oppo 970 | Pure|AV PF31d
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited June 2006
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    Come on Chuck and tell the truth........It's all the dancing lights that gets ya!!!!;) :D

    "I BEEN HIP_NO_TIZED"



    Damn sure would like to see how that thing would drive my Carvers
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,328
    edited June 2006
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    WOW! Someone should jump on this! Anyone looking for a separate 2 channel amp to complement their receiver for driving front speakers (like SDA-2's or the like) should be all over this. Soundcraftsman amps are solid, quality amps. I had one of their "shoe box" amps, great sound!

    Does this one have a fan?
    Carl

  • joeparaski
    joeparaski Posts: 1,865
    edited June 2006
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    If I hadn't scored another Bose 1801 I may have jumped on this....that is a sweet looking amp.
    Amplifiers: 1-SAE Mark IV, 4-SAE 2400, 1-SAE 2500, 2-SAE 2600, 1-Buttkicker BKA 1000N w/2-tactile transducers. Sources: Sony BDP CX7000es, Sony CX300/CX400/CX450/CX455, SAE 8000 tuner, Akai 4000D R2R, Technics 1100A TT, Epson 8500UB with Carada 100". Speakers:Polk SDA SRS, 3.1TL, FXi5, FXi3, 2-SVS 20-29, Yamaha, SVS center sub. Power:2-Monster HTS3500, Furman M-8D & RR16 Plus. 2-SAE 4000 X-overs, SAE 5000a noise reduction, MSB Link DAC III, MSB Powerbase, Behringer 2496, Monarchy DIP 24/96.
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited June 2006
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    What's that beast rated at @ 4ohms??
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited June 2006
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    Damn. I wanna, I wanna....
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited June 2006
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    Isig,
    I'm guessing a lateral move in power, not sure in sonics.

    ND13,
    My guess would be around 425 or so into 4 ohms but I don't have knowledge of the exact rating, thats why I didn't list it.

    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,522
    edited June 2006
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    Soundcraftsmen's have a warm side of neutral sound to them and tons of reserve power. If your system is over-analytical or has alot digital glare, this is just the cure....
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited June 2006
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    I prefer to think of the sound as "on the tube side of neutral" :)
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,522
    edited June 2006
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    True, they're great amps and this is a hell of a deal. I'd be all over it if I were amp shopping...
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited June 2006
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    Max
    I am interested in your amp and am trying to reach the wife (BOSS).

    Can we at least do a price check on ground shipping to Lee Summit MO?

    Thanks
    Henry
    ***WAREMTAE***
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited June 2006
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    PM me your address
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,352
    edited June 2006
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    madmax wrote:
    My guess would be around 425 or so into 4 ohms but I don't have knowledge of the exact rating, thats why I didn't list it.

    madmax

    This add from the Soundcraftsmen Reference Site says 375 WPC @ 4 Ohms but it is an add and not a spec sheet. The MTX archive link doesn't work so no help there.

    Circuitry for continuous 2 Ohm operation says a lot.
    Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,328
    edited June 2006
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    HBombToo wrote:
    Max
    I am interested in your amp and am trying to reach the wife (BOSS).

    Tell her it would make a great Father's Day gift henry:D
    Carl

  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited June 2006
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    Henry,
    Just a FYI, another fellow also got a quote as well via pm from around 7:30 this morning and I'm waiting for his reply. Just want to keep everything on the up and up.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited June 2006
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    Max

    I got the go ahead so if your AM interest falls out let me know.

    Thanks in advance
    Henry
    ***WAREMTAE***
  • I-SIG
    I-SIG Posts: 2,238
    edited June 2006
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    madmax wrote:
    Isig,
    I'm guessing a lateral move in power, not sure in sonics.

    madmax

    Yeah, I was more worried about sonics than power since I'm pretty squared away in that department.

    Wes
    Link: http://polkarmy.com/forums

    Panasonic TH-42PHD8UK 42" HDTV | Polk Audio SDA-SRS's (w/RDO's & Vampire Posts) + SVS PC+ 25-31 | AudioQuest Granite (mids) + BWA Silver (highs) | Cary Audio CAD-200 | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Wyred 4 Sound STP/SE Pre | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Cambridge Audio azur 840C--Wadia 170i + iPod jammed w/ lossless audio--Oppo 970 | Pure|AV PF31d
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited June 2006
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    Sold!

    Thanks for all the participation guys!
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited June 2006
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    madmax wrote:
    Sold!

    Thanks for all the participation guys!
    madmax

    Who got it?
  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited June 2006
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    Not me Toby but in the world of fair play all is good here.

    Got your note and Thanks Max

    Henry
    ***WAREMTAE***
  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited June 2006
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    HBombToo wrote:
    Not me Toby

    awww. I was gonna help you break it in with some SuperTramp. :D
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited June 2006
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    PolkThug wrote:
    Who got it?

    I never kiss and tell... :D

    No really, this time I'll leave it up to the purchaser to share that information if he wishes. I will say I read over his previous posts beforehand and he is a very well liked and helpful individual. A top notch member.

    I never really thought about it before but I think in the future I will mention a PM has been sent or whatever. That way everyone will stay better informed of the progress.

    madmax

    Edit: This selling stuff is more complicated than it first seems, really. :)
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited June 2006
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    PolkThug wrote:
    awww. I was gonna help you break it in with some SuperTramp. :D

    You have not heard SuperTramp until you experience it on the Marantz8....

    Any time you and the Mrs want to head on over to my double wide is good with me:)

    HBomb
    ***WAREMTAE***
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited June 2006
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    madmax wrote:
    I will say I read over his previous posts beforehand and he is a very well liked and helpful individual. A top notch member.

    :)


    HUH? I didn't buy it... It looks cool though :D
    MY HT RIG:
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    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
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    faster100 wrote:
    HUH? I didn't buy it... It looks cool though :D

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
  • bert26
    bert26 Posts: 320
    edited June 2006
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    Chuck - thanks for the kind words.

    I PM'd Chuck about this Soundcraftsmen sometime this morning. The reason I PM'd was that I was inquiring about a "payment program" and did not want to do so publicly. Chuck and I came to other arrangements and an agreement to purchase was made. I did make it clear that I would understand if Chuck deemed it more appropriate to sell to HBomb because of his (Henry's) public interest.

    I apologize if I have ruffled any feathers. I wasn't trying to do anything untoward.

    While I am at it - I recently purchased a B&K ST2140 (should be here tomorrow!) from Doro via e-mails. The reason for this "non public" purchase was that my ID would not allow me to post on the forum. Mark was kind enough to work the transaction through e-mail instead. Thanks to Kris Siegel (Web Intern) for helping me get my ID straightened out.

    So there you have it....

    Cheers!
    Chris
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited June 2006
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    you've got good taste...