Got the LSI, Getting the Sunfire, Preamp?

LSIKING

My system:

LSI 25
LSI 9
LSI FX
LSI C
PSW1000

Most likely AMP = Sunfire Cinema Grand 200-7

What Preamp? I like Denon Recievers, should I use one of those, maybe a 2807 or perhaps whatever they are coming out with next that has HDMI Video Switching and a Preout for a AMP.

I dont want to pay a fortune, because all I will be using it for is my components, and for HDMI Video Switching. Any suggestions?

Oh and a question for anyone who can answer it, the AMP is where the Speakers draw there power, with a Powered Sub, it draws from itself from what I gathered, does it matter what type of Preamp you have as far as quality of sub goes?

Thanks for any input!

amulford

You might think about another Sunfire. The TG5 has the HDMI switch you need.

http://www.sunfire.com/TGP5.htm

Or you could go with the Ultimate Receiver II if you could live without HDMI switching.

http://www.sunfire.com/ultimatereceiver_II.html

cfrizz

How much would you consider a fortune?

LSIKING

With that Sunfire Theater Grand Processor-5, would I need the Sunfire Cinema Grand 200-7 as an AMP then for my LSI system? If so then I consider a fortune 2000 bucks.....If all I am using this Preamp for is HDMI switching and a Subwoofer Output and Preout for an Amp, I could get something like a Denon 2807 correct? Please give any suggestions. My budget for this would probably be 1500 bucks.

amulford

Yes, you would need to get the CG 200-7 with the TG5. The TG5 is a PRE-amp.

That's why I question if you REALLY need HDMI switching. If you have component video, you could do both (amp and pre) with the receiver.

sickicw

Right now the Denon 2807 is the only receive or pre-amp that i know of that can accept multichannel pcm via hdmi. That means you can get the high def audio from hd-dvd players, blu-ray players, and the ps3 if you buy one.

cfrizz

Yes you can use the Denon 2807 as a preamp with the Sunfire amp. And if for some reason your amp kicks the bucket, you can use the receiver by itself until you get the amp repaired.

Skynut

I have the Sunfire Theater Grand II and like it alot better than I liked my Onkyo.
I am thinking about upgrading to the Sherbourn 7010 to match my amp.

faster100

so is this 2807 a new denon model? did they start going back down in model numbers? Ive wanted a 3805 forever, then came the 3806.. so is the 2807 the new "****" for receivers by denon.. just wondering, hard to keep up.

sickicw

not sure just how new it is, but it is the only one that I know of that can accept multichannel pcm via hdmi. I would guess that the higher models (3806, 4806, ect) can do the same thing, but i would look it up in the manual for sure.

okiepolkie

The 2807 is the newest receiver for Denon right now(hence the 7 in the model number). I don't think it quite up to the same power specifications with the 3806, but the HDMI capabilities make a very interesting piece of equipment.

Demiurge

okiepolkie wrote:

The 2807 is the newest receiver for Denon right now(hence the 7 in the model number). I don't think it quite up to the same power specifications with the 3806, but the HDMI capabilities make a very interesting piece of equipment.

Yep, Denon uses year codes for the last 2 digits of their model numbers.

cheddar

And as you slide up the thousands digit from 2 to 4 etc., the biggest difference is in the amplifier section with the 4s and 5s able to handle some moderate low impedance loads. So with seperate amplification, you can actually slide down the scale to get a pretty nice pre-amp for the cost.

faster100

ah cool, Thanks.. denon is making some nice units lately.

cfrizz

He already has a Sunfire amp, so he doesn't have to worry about the power that the Denon puts out.:D

okiepolkie wrote:

The 2807 is the newest receiver for Denon right now(hence the 7 in the model number). I don't think it quite up to the same power specifications with the 3806, but the HDMI capabilities make a very interesting piece of equipment.

okiepolkie

I know. I was just providing information about the Denon. Oh, and I'd go Sunfire if I could muster up the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

LSIKING

Ok, so from what i gather, I could use the 2807 as a preamp. Otherwise does anyone recommend anything else for the Preamp? Maybe I should wait a little while to see what other 07 models come out and if they have HDMI Video Switching with a Preout for AMP and a Subwoofer Out..

okiepolkie

If you NEED the HDMI switching/upconversion, I might wait a few more months to get an actual pre-amp that has those features built in. There are several other companies that make good pre-amps, and are considerably cheaper than Sunfire.

cheddar

LSIKING wrote:

Ok, so from what i gather, I could use the 2807 as a preamp. Otherwise does anyone recommend anything else for the Preamp? Maybe I should wait a little while to see what other 07 models come out and if they have HDMI Video Switching with a Preout for AMP and a Subwoofer Out..

If you're still talking about the Denon models, the 07s higher up the chain might only make you pay more for amplification that you don't need. They will have some other stuff like multi-zone listening etc. But unless you have some interest other than HDMI switching, my guess is that the electronics (HDMI, preouts, at least) might not be all that different. Denon's always been good with its receivers, because it always seems to have a robust state of the art feature set. But, as has already been said, you can wait for some of the "real" pre-amp companies to catch up...and their internal electronics will give you more high end options without paying for the excess baggage of the receiver section amplifier.

doug lang

I to would second Okie's and Cheddar's suggestion on waiting for the o7's to be released. The Sunfires tend to be on the high side. But boy do I love them.