My latest DIY speakers

WardswebWardsweb Posts: 817
edited December 2009 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
These only need veneer to be complete but I've got a Lone Star Bottleheads meet at my place on May 20th, so they will play as is. After the meet I'll take the drivers out and veneer.

Drivers: Altec 416-8C LF, Altec 802-8G on 511B horns HF and JBL 077 UHF. The crossover is a combination of an Altec N501 and JBL 3106.

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Living room:Maplenoll turntable, Clearaudio Champion II turntable, Sonic Euphoria pre, EAR 834P phono pre, Shanling CD-T1500 sacd, Auralic Altair DAC/server, PS Audio Quintessence power, ASL AQ1006 845 DT MKII mono block amplifers, DIY Altec/JBL speakers
Sun room: Roksan Radius 5 turntable, Lounge phono pre, DIY Class A 6H30 linestage, DIY 2A3 amp, Krell CDP, JBL C50 Olympus speakers with custom Smith horns, Klipsch Cornwall III
Den: Onkyo TX-NR929 receiver, Oppo BDP-103 player, Panamax M5400-PM power, SST Ampzilla 2000 mono blocks, Behringer EP 4000 sub amp, Electrovoice DX-38 active, Klipsch Jubilee speakers, Martin Logan Cinema center, JBL SAT2 surrounds, Danley DTS-10 sub
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  • WardswebWardsweb Posts: 817
    edited May 2006
    This shows the skeleton structure. A combination of CNC baltic birch and MDF.
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    Living room:Maplenoll turntable, Clearaudio Champion II turntable, Sonic Euphoria pre, EAR 834P phono pre, Shanling CD-T1500 sacd, Auralic Altair DAC/server, PS Audio Quintessence power, ASL AQ1006 845 DT MKII mono block amplifers, DIY Altec/JBL speakers
    Sun room: Roksan Radius 5 turntable, Lounge phono pre, DIY Class A 6H30 linestage, DIY 2A3 amp, Krell CDP, JBL C50 Olympus speakers with custom Smith horns, Klipsch Cornwall III
    Den: Onkyo TX-NR929 receiver, Oppo BDP-103 player, Panamax M5400-PM power, SST Ampzilla 2000 mono blocks, Behringer EP 4000 sub amp, Electrovoice DX-38 active, Klipsch Jubilee speakers, Martin Logan Cinema center, JBL SAT2 surrounds, Danley DTS-10 sub
  • WardswebWardsweb Posts: 817
    edited May 2006
    The sides are done in 4 layers of kerf MDF. These have been filled with bead blasting media (finer than sand), interior of the cabinet is sprayed with a non-harndening soundproofing and fiberglass lined.

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    Living room:Maplenoll turntable, Clearaudio Champion II turntable, Sonic Euphoria pre, EAR 834P phono pre, Shanling CD-T1500 sacd, Auralic Altair DAC/server, PS Audio Quintessence power, ASL AQ1006 845 DT MKII mono block amplifers, DIY Altec/JBL speakers
    Sun room: Roksan Radius 5 turntable, Lounge phono pre, DIY Class A 6H30 linestage, DIY 2A3 amp, Krell CDP, JBL C50 Olympus speakers with custom Smith horns, Klipsch Cornwall III
    Den: Onkyo TX-NR929 receiver, Oppo BDP-103 player, Panamax M5400-PM power, SST Ampzilla 2000 mono blocks, Behringer EP 4000 sub amp, Electrovoice DX-38 active, Klipsch Jubilee speakers, Martin Logan Cinema center, JBL SAT2 surrounds, Danley DTS-10 sub
  • RuSsMaNRuSsMaN Posts: 17,995
    edited May 2006
    Incredible work, as always. I SOOOO wish I had woodworking skills.

    Those would probably sound great on my 211 SET's (for sale) ;).
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • dorokusaidorokusai Posts: 25,487
    edited May 2006
    That sets the bar for DIY in this place....holy cow.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • WardswebWardsweb Posts: 817
    edited May 2006
    RuSsMaN wrote:
    Incredible work, as always. I SOOOO wish I had woodworking skills.

    Those would probably sound great on my 211 SET's (for sale) ;).
    Think you'll make it down for this saturday's shindig? No obligation to, just wondering.
    Living room:Maplenoll turntable, Clearaudio Champion II turntable, Sonic Euphoria pre, EAR 834P phono pre, Shanling CD-T1500 sacd, Auralic Altair DAC/server, PS Audio Quintessence power, ASL AQ1006 845 DT MKII mono block amplifers, DIY Altec/JBL speakers
    Sun room: Roksan Radius 5 turntable, Lounge phono pre, DIY Class A 6H30 linestage, DIY 2A3 amp, Krell CDP, JBL C50 Olympus speakers with custom Smith horns, Klipsch Cornwall III
    Den: Onkyo TX-NR929 receiver, Oppo BDP-103 player, Panamax M5400-PM power, SST Ampzilla 2000 mono blocks, Behringer EP 4000 sub amp, Electrovoice DX-38 active, Klipsch Jubilee speakers, Martin Logan Cinema center, JBL SAT2 surrounds, Danley DTS-10 sub
  • RuSsMaNRuSsMaN Posts: 17,995
    edited May 2006
    It's still up in the air, I want to, just depends on what I get done this week.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • Paul in CanadaPaul in Canada Posts: 178
    edited May 2006
    Wow! Great job. One of these days I would like to try build some speakers. If you don't mind me asking about how much time and money would go into a project like this?
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  • WardswebWardsweb Posts: 817
    edited May 2006
    Wow! Great job. One of these days I would like to try build some speakers. If you don't mind me asking about how much time and money would go into a project like this?
    My 2-way rosewood corner horns took about a year, part time and came in around $1500. The main cost is for the drivers, as is the case with my present 3-way speakers. The total will come in just under $2K with $1300 of that being the drivers and crossovers. Now if you had to buy these speakers you would be spending somewhere in the neighborhood of $6k-7K pretty easy. With better drivers these would run more like $10K.
    Living room:Maplenoll turntable, Clearaudio Champion II turntable, Sonic Euphoria pre, EAR 834P phono pre, Shanling CD-T1500 sacd, Auralic Altair DAC/server, PS Audio Quintessence power, ASL AQ1006 845 DT MKII mono block amplifers, DIY Altec/JBL speakers
    Sun room: Roksan Radius 5 turntable, Lounge phono pre, DIY Class A 6H30 linestage, DIY 2A3 amp, Krell CDP, JBL C50 Olympus speakers with custom Smith horns, Klipsch Cornwall III
    Den: Onkyo TX-NR929 receiver, Oppo BDP-103 player, Panamax M5400-PM power, SST Ampzilla 2000 mono blocks, Behringer EP 4000 sub amp, Electrovoice DX-38 active, Klipsch Jubilee speakers, Martin Logan Cinema center, JBL SAT2 surrounds, Danley DTS-10 sub
  • unc2701unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited May 2006
    *Smacks forehead* I don't know why I never thought of layering kerfed wood. I've always been hesitant to use kerfing on speakers (cuts would be huge for proper cabinet thickness) but layers would fix that. DOH!


    Very nice work... would love to get my hands on a CNC. My unkle makes furniture, but part of his whole sales pitch is the uniqueness of each of his pieces- so there no chance of a CNC there. He is good for a 3 hour speech on joinery, though.
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  • hoosier21hoosier21 Posts: 4,401
    edited May 2006
    It would be unreal to have access to a CNC
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  • WardswebWardsweb Posts: 817
    edited May 2006
    unc2701 wrote:
    *Smacks forehead* I don't know why I never thought of layering kerfed wood. I've always been hesitant to use kerfing on speakers (cuts would be huge for proper cabinet thickness) but layers would fix that. DOH
    When layering, place the kerf cut facing each other. Then fill with whatever you want.
    Living room:Maplenoll turntable, Clearaudio Champion II turntable, Sonic Euphoria pre, EAR 834P phono pre, Shanling CD-T1500 sacd, Auralic Altair DAC/server, PS Audio Quintessence power, ASL AQ1006 845 DT MKII mono block amplifers, DIY Altec/JBL speakers
    Sun room: Roksan Radius 5 turntable, Lounge phono pre, DIY Class A 6H30 linestage, DIY 2A3 amp, Krell CDP, JBL C50 Olympus speakers with custom Smith horns, Klipsch Cornwall III
    Den: Onkyo TX-NR929 receiver, Oppo BDP-103 player, Panamax M5400-PM power, SST Ampzilla 2000 mono blocks, Behringer EP 4000 sub amp, Electrovoice DX-38 active, Klipsch Jubilee speakers, Martin Logan Cinema center, JBL SAT2 surrounds, Danley DTS-10 sub
  • WardswebWardsweb Posts: 817
    edited May 2006
    hoosier21 wrote:
    It would be unreal to have access to a CNC
    Check you local yellow pages for wood shops, furniture/cabinet makers and lumber yards. You can pay someone to do the CNC for you.
    Living room:Maplenoll turntable, Clearaudio Champion II turntable, Sonic Euphoria pre, EAR 834P phono pre, Shanling CD-T1500 sacd, Auralic Altair DAC/server, PS Audio Quintessence power, ASL AQ1006 845 DT MKII mono block amplifers, DIY Altec/JBL speakers
    Sun room: Roksan Radius 5 turntable, Lounge phono pre, DIY Class A 6H30 linestage, DIY 2A3 amp, Krell CDP, JBL C50 Olympus speakers with custom Smith horns, Klipsch Cornwall III
    Den: Onkyo TX-NR929 receiver, Oppo BDP-103 player, Panamax M5400-PM power, SST Ampzilla 2000 mono blocks, Behringer EP 4000 sub amp, Electrovoice DX-38 active, Klipsch Jubilee speakers, Martin Logan Cinema center, JBL SAT2 surrounds, Danley DTS-10 sub
  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 19,064
    edited May 2006
    Outstanding job, I bet those babies rock!
  • dorokusaidorokusai Posts: 25,487
    edited May 2006
    Wardsweb wrote:
    Check you local yellow pages for wood shops, furniture/cabinet makers and lumber yards. You can pay someone to do the CNC for you.

    If it isn't in Russ's garage now....that's not likely to happen.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • amulfordamulford Posts: 5,198
    edited May 2006
    Very nice work, Luther. If you could, I'd love to see how the veneer turns out.

    How efficient are they? Did you have any trouble integrating the two crossovers?
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  • MazerothMazeroth Posts: 1,585
    edited May 2006
    Freakin' beautiful!

    DiY speaker builders...UNITE! :D
  • WardswebWardsweb Posts: 817
    edited May 2006
    amulford wrote:
    Very nice work, Luther. If you could, I'd love to see how the veneer turns out.

    How efficient are they? Did you have any trouble integrating the two crossovers?
    The speakers are around 100dB efficient, maybe a little more. So a few watts from a 2A3 amp work fine but 50 from a EL34 push pull can rock the house.

    The crossover worked well by just adding the UHF section of the JBL 3106 to the Altec N501. Both the HF and UHF have variable attenuation, so it can be dialed in to taste.
    Living room:Maplenoll turntable, Clearaudio Champion II turntable, Sonic Euphoria pre, EAR 834P phono pre, Shanling CD-T1500 sacd, Auralic Altair DAC/server, PS Audio Quintessence power, ASL AQ1006 845 DT MKII mono block amplifers, DIY Altec/JBL speakers
    Sun room: Roksan Radius 5 turntable, Lounge phono pre, DIY Class A 6H30 linestage, DIY 2A3 amp, Krell CDP, JBL C50 Olympus speakers with custom Smith horns, Klipsch Cornwall III
    Den: Onkyo TX-NR929 receiver, Oppo BDP-103 player, Panamax M5400-PM power, SST Ampzilla 2000 mono blocks, Behringer EP 4000 sub amp, Electrovoice DX-38 active, Klipsch Jubilee speakers, Martin Logan Cinema center, JBL SAT2 surrounds, Danley DTS-10 sub
  • MoreantsMoreants Posts: 70
    edited May 2006
    Very impressive! Beautiful work and sound to match I would guess.


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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,642
    edited May 2006
    Very nice job,we are all envious of your skills.
    Anytime you want to build me some.......
    Sure you hear that from 100 people a day!
    Beautiful job!!!
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  • WardswebWardsweb Posts: 817
    edited May 2006
    Bass ports done, just need to install the crossovers inside and veneer, but listening is warming my soul. Audio meet this weekend will be proud papa syndrome.

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    Living room:Maplenoll turntable, Clearaudio Champion II turntable, Sonic Euphoria pre, EAR 834P phono pre, Shanling CD-T1500 sacd, Auralic Altair DAC/server, PS Audio Quintessence power, ASL AQ1006 845 DT MKII mono block amplifers, DIY Altec/JBL speakers
    Sun room: Roksan Radius 5 turntable, Lounge phono pre, DIY Class A 6H30 linestage, DIY 2A3 amp, Krell CDP, JBL C50 Olympus speakers with custom Smith horns, Klipsch Cornwall III
    Den: Onkyo TX-NR929 receiver, Oppo BDP-103 player, Panamax M5400-PM power, SST Ampzilla 2000 mono blocks, Behringer EP 4000 sub amp, Electrovoice DX-38 active, Klipsch Jubilee speakers, Martin Logan Cinema center, JBL SAT2 surrounds, Danley DTS-10 sub
  • ApexApex Posts: 69
    edited June 2006
    Absolutely gorgeous..
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  • Early B.Early B. Posts: 8,171
    edited June 2006
    Ward -- you gotta give us an update on this project...
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  • ND13ND13 Posts: 7,648
    edited June 2006
    Wood!!!
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  • george danielgeorge daniel Posts: 11,994
    edited June 2006
    Class act :)
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  • disneyjoe7disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,520
    edited June 2006
    Very Nice indeed.

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  • faster100faster100 Posts: 6,247
    edited June 2006
    That whole rig is unreal.. Nice
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  • WardswebWardsweb Posts: 817
    edited November 2009
    Over three years in the making, but I finally veneered my horns and my 2-channel rig has had a few changes. So, here it is in all it's glory.

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    Living room:Maplenoll turntable, Clearaudio Champion II turntable, Sonic Euphoria pre, EAR 834P phono pre, Shanling CD-T1500 sacd, Auralic Altair DAC/server, PS Audio Quintessence power, ASL AQ1006 845 DT MKII mono block amplifers, DIY Altec/JBL speakers
    Sun room: Roksan Radius 5 turntable, Lounge phono pre, DIY Class A 6H30 linestage, DIY 2A3 amp, Krell CDP, JBL C50 Olympus speakers with custom Smith horns, Klipsch Cornwall III
    Den: Onkyo TX-NR929 receiver, Oppo BDP-103 player, Panamax M5400-PM power, SST Ampzilla 2000 mono blocks, Behringer EP 4000 sub amp, Electrovoice DX-38 active, Klipsch Jubilee speakers, Martin Logan Cinema center, JBL SAT2 surrounds, Danley DTS-10 sub
  • kawizx9rkawizx9r Posts: 5,179
    edited November 2009
    Wow...Im jealous ;)

    Congratulations on the speakers, they're beautiful and I can only imagine that they sound even better!
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  • RuSsMaNRuSsMaN Posts: 17,995
    edited November 2009
    LUTHER!

    I guess I need to revive my membership on that other board. Let's get the LSB's going again, if you haven't already, I miss you and Fred and all those other lunatics.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • hearingimparedhearingimpared Banned Posts: 21,473
    edited November 2009
    Absolutely beautiful!!! The whole rig.
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