Onkyo TX-DS989

ahorvitz
ahorvitz Posts: 235
edited May 2006 in Electronics
I've found one for sale- used. It's a huge upgrade from my current Onkyo 5.1 (TX-DS575X, I think). What's it worth in good condition?

Version 2 model btw... Thanks.
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  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited May 2006
    Not real sure but probably around $750.00
    Fwiw I upgraded my Onkyo tx-ds787 to a Sunfire theater grand II for $750.00 and I am amazed how much better the TG is.
    Better sound all the way around as far as I am concerned.

    PS. the sunfire requires an external amp.
    Skynut
    SOPA® Founder
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    DVD Onkyo DV-SP802
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    Sherbourn 7/2100
    Panamax 5510 power conditioner (for electronics)
    2 PSAudio UPC-200 power conditioners (for amps)
    Front L/R RT3000p (Bi-Wired)
    Center CS1000p (Bi-Wired) (under the television)
    Center RT2000p's (Bi-Wired) (on each side of the television)
    Sur FX1000
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  • ahorvitz
    ahorvitz Posts: 235
    edited May 2006
    Thanks.
    I'm at the stage now where I want to add power, but my current receiver lacks pre-amp outs. I may be able to get this 989 for as little as $500, so I think I have to do it. If it's not a long term solution, I ccan hopefully dump it for what I might pay for it.
    Main Rig
    Pioneer Elite SC-05, Rotel RMB-1075
    RT800i, CS400i, RT35i, FXi50, Klipsch RSW-12
    Pioneer Elite DV F-07, PS3, Wii
    Monster HTS 3500 MKII
    SC Analog 2, BJC Speaker Wire
    Samsung HL61A650

    2nd Rig

    Pioneer Elite VSX-56txi, Pioneer Elite DV-47a
    Cambridge Soundworks, MC150 (Center), MC100 x 4, Mirage LF-150

    Office

    Adcom GTP-400, Adcom GFA-535II, (need a quality CDP), RT55i
  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited May 2006
    You can also use it with your new amp when you get one.
    that is what I did, I got a new amp and used the pre outs.
    I pretty much figured out the Onkyo had to go at that point so I scored the Sunfire.
    It will be never ending so just do what you feel is right and enjoy.
    There are very few wrong answers.
    Skynut
    SOPA® Founder
    The system Almost there
    DVD Onkyo DV-SP802
    Sunfire Theater Grand II
    Sherbourn 7/2100
    Panamax 5510 power conditioner (for electronics)
    2 PSAudio UPC-200 power conditioners (for amps)
    Front L/R RT3000p (Bi-Wired)
    Center CS1000p (Bi-Wired) (under the television)
    Center RT2000p's (Bi-Wired) (on each side of the television)
    Sur FX1000
    SVS ultra plus 2

    www.ShadetreesMachineShop.com
    Thanks for looking
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited May 2006
    I own a Onkyo 898 sweet nice, works well as a Prue / pro for future needs. For $500 for a 989 model above mine I would jump on it.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited May 2006
    Skynut wrote:
    Not real sure but probably around $750.00
    WWI I upgraded my Onkyo tx-ds787 to a Sunfire theater grand II for $750.00 and I am amazed how much better the TG is.
    Better sound all the way around as far as I am concerned.

    PS. the sunfire requires an external amp.



    Why would a Sunfire theater grand II sound better then a Onkyo with an external amp. I don't think that is apples to apples comparison.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited May 2006
    For that price, I'd jump on it in a heartbeat. But then again, what are you running off it?
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited May 2006
    disneyjoe7 wrote:
    Why would a Sunfire theater grand II sound better then a Onkyo with an external amp. I don't think that is apples to apples comparison.


    I was using the Onkyo with the same amp I used the Sunfire with.
    When the Onkyo came out and the Sunfire went in it sounded better.
    The only change was the processor.
    Skynut
    SOPA® Founder
    The system Almost there
    DVD Onkyo DV-SP802
    Sunfire Theater Grand II
    Sherbourn 7/2100
    Panamax 5510 power conditioner (for electronics)
    2 PSAudio UPC-200 power conditioners (for amps)
    Front L/R RT3000p (Bi-Wired)
    Center CS1000p (Bi-Wired) (under the television)
    Center RT2000p's (Bi-Wired) (on each side of the television)
    Sur FX1000
    SVS ultra plus 2

    www.ShadetreesMachineShop.com
    Thanks for looking
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited May 2006
    Skynut,

    Interesting the only thing that comes to mind is that I read years ago that the 787 had processor problems. If memory serves me correct the 898 and the 989 receivers used another type of processor so for $500 I would jump on it.

    BTW your statement as me thinking about removing the Onkyo soon.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited May 2006
    I really wanted the 989 when I got my 787. I just could not afford it.
    I really like my 787 and it is now in the bedroom.
    I think they are great pieces of equipment it's just that my Sunfire sounds better then my 787 does in my opnion.
    Skynut
    SOPA® Founder
    The system Almost there
    DVD Onkyo DV-SP802
    Sunfire Theater Grand II
    Sherbourn 7/2100
    Panamax 5510 power conditioner (for electronics)
    2 PSAudio UPC-200 power conditioners (for amps)
    Front L/R RT3000p (Bi-Wired)
    Center CS1000p (Bi-Wired) (under the television)
    Center RT2000p's (Bi-Wired) (on each side of the television)
    Sur FX1000
    SVS ultra plus 2

    www.ShadetreesMachineShop.com
    Thanks for looking
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited May 2006
    Well the same here the 989 looked really sweet, my 898 was my compromise. Again with your statement I see my 898 leaving. But I use it as an AD converter mostly as I do a lot of 2 channel only this is a pre / pro only in that mode.

    If I did it all over again it would be separates all the way.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • ahorvitz
    ahorvitz Posts: 235
    edited May 2006
    I'm running these right now... just picked up the RT1000p's used last week.
    Main Rig
    Pioneer Elite SC-05, Rotel RMB-1075
    RT800i, CS400i, RT35i, FXi50, Klipsch RSW-12
    Pioneer Elite DV F-07, PS3, Wii
    Monster HTS 3500 MKII
    SC Analog 2, BJC Speaker Wire
    Samsung HL61A650

    2nd Rig

    Pioneer Elite VSX-56txi, Pioneer Elite DV-47a
    Cambridge Soundworks, MC150 (Center), MC100 x 4, Mirage LF-150

    Office

    Adcom GTP-400, Adcom GFA-535II, (need a quality CDP), RT55i
  • okiepolkie
    okiepolkie Posts: 2,258
    edited May 2006
    Looks like you will have a very nice system. The next thing you will have to do is upgrade your subwoofer.
    Tschüss
    Zach
  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited May 2006
    500 bucks, with pre outs, and future expansion ability? future being key, you can easily use the onk as a stand alone for now until you can afford to go the amplification road right, getting the onk is a no brainer.
    Living Room 2 Channel -
    Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.

    Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
    Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.

    Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites
  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited May 2006
    Disney,

    That is what i found out also.
    I was real lucky that I had pre outs on mine because that was not something I knew about when I bought it.
    I added the amp later and liked the added power.
    Then the opportunity came to get the Sunfire and I just did it.
    I am thinking about going for the Sherbourn processor next to compare it and the Sunfire.
    These damn upgrades and switching equipment get real expensive, eventually I need to sell off some older stuff.

    I say for $500.00 go for it, you won't be dissapointed.
    Skynut
    SOPA® Founder
    The system Almost there
    DVD Onkyo DV-SP802
    Sunfire Theater Grand II
    Sherbourn 7/2100
    Panamax 5510 power conditioner (for electronics)
    2 PSAudio UPC-200 power conditioners (for amps)
    Front L/R RT3000p (Bi-Wired)
    Center CS1000p (Bi-Wired) (under the television)
    Center RT2000p's (Bi-Wired) (on each side of the television)
    Sur FX1000
    SVS ultra plus 2

    www.ShadetreesMachineShop.com
    Thanks for looking
  • ahorvitz
    ahorvitz Posts: 235
    edited May 2006
    Thanks all... I DEFINITELY need to upgrade the subwoofer. I got it free with the 55's and the 245 through Crutchfield. Hindsight being 20/20, I would have upgraded to the CS400i center and probably the PSW450, but I was even more of a rank amateur than I am today.

    We'll see if this actually comes through for the 989. It's a private sale and the seller is being difficult about testing it.
    Main Rig
    Pioneer Elite SC-05, Rotel RMB-1075
    RT800i, CS400i, RT35i, FXi50, Klipsch RSW-12
    Pioneer Elite DV F-07, PS3, Wii
    Monster HTS 3500 MKII
    SC Analog 2, BJC Speaker Wire
    Samsung HL61A650

    2nd Rig

    Pioneer Elite VSX-56txi, Pioneer Elite DV-47a
    Cambridge Soundworks, MC150 (Center), MC100 x 4, Mirage LF-150

    Office

    Adcom GTP-400, Adcom GFA-535II, (need a quality CDP), RT55i
  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited May 2006
    Skynut wrote:
    I am thinking about going for the Sherbourn processor next to compare it and the Sunfire.

    Isn't the Sherbourn processor the one that Outlaw uses in their 990?
    Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
    __________________________________________
    Panasonic -50PX600U 50" Plasma
    Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
    Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
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    PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
    PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
    PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
    SVS - PB-12/Plus (Subwoofer)
    Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
    Logitech Harmony 880 - Remote
  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited May 2006
    I am not sure about that.
    I have heard that Sherbourn is very similar to the Sunfire inside.
    Skynut
    SOPA® Founder
    The system Almost there
    DVD Onkyo DV-SP802
    Sunfire Theater Grand II
    Sherbourn 7/2100
    Panamax 5510 power conditioner (for electronics)
    2 PSAudio UPC-200 power conditioners (for amps)
    Front L/R RT3000p (Bi-Wired)
    Center CS1000p (Bi-Wired) (under the television)
    Center RT2000p's (Bi-Wired) (on each side of the television)
    Sur FX1000
    SVS ultra plus 2

    www.ShadetreesMachineShop.com
    Thanks for looking
  • okiepolkie
    okiepolkie Posts: 2,258
    edited May 2006
    I think the Sherwood processor is the same as the Outlaw's. I know the Outlaw 950, Sherbourn, and Atlantic Tech of the same time frame used the same processor, but I don't know if the same platform is being used for Sherbourn's new model.
    Tschüss
    Zach
  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited May 2006
    My bad. It was the Sherwood P-965 that the Outlaw 990 was built off of.

    http://www.outlawaudio.com/support/faq_990.html

    And the ATI 2000 series that the Outlaw Amps were built off of.

    Umm...nevermind. I will shut-up now and stop thinking out loud. :)
    Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
    __________________________________________
    Panasonic -50PX600U 50" Plasma
    Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
    Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
    Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
    PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
    PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
    PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
    SVS - PB-12/Plus (Subwoofer)
    Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
    Logitech Harmony 880 - Remote
  • doug lang
    doug lang Posts: 261
    edited May 2006
    Hey I have to add to this. I have a 989 which I replaced with a sunfire III. I also have a sunfire amp. For me there was no comparison. The 989 with all the goodies does not match the sunfire. I never got a clear answer with the 4 amp deal with the polk speakers. I even called onkyo for advise. Of course they said the 989 could handle the lsi polk speakers. My sunfire runs a lot cooler than onkyo, which means a lot in sw fl. My onkyo is being used for outdoor and living room use. Would I give up the onkyo, no and if there was one available for 500.00 I would buy it. I bought the last one new from the company in Boston Mass. Can't remember their name. All in all that would be a good deal.
    Oppo bdp 93 Blue Ray
    Integra DTR-80-2
    Polk LSi9s (mains)
    Polk LSiC (center)
    Polk LSiFXs (surrounds)
    Sub SVS 20-39+
    Samsung 60" Led 3-d
    Blue Jean Cables
  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited May 2006
    Agreed, I do not plan on letting my Onkyo go either.
    Skynut
    SOPA® Founder
    The system Almost there
    DVD Onkyo DV-SP802
    Sunfire Theater Grand II
    Sherbourn 7/2100
    Panamax 5510 power conditioner (for electronics)
    2 PSAudio UPC-200 power conditioners (for amps)
    Front L/R RT3000p (Bi-Wired)
    Center CS1000p (Bi-Wired) (under the television)
    Center RT2000p's (Bi-Wired) (on each side of the television)
    Sur FX1000
    SVS ultra plus 2

    www.ShadetreesMachineShop.com
    Thanks for looking