SVS heads up

criverajr
criverajr Posts: 1,675
Looks to be a pretty decent deal for someome looking for a passive svs.

http://av123forum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13455

CRJ
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited April 2006
    He's in Kansas too. Tempting, but I hate those cylinder subs... so ugly. :(
    Honoured to be, an original SOPA founding member
    Stuff...

    RTi12's - front
    CSi5 - center
    FXi3's - surrounds
    RTi4's - surrounds
    SVS PB12-NSD/2 - sub :D:D:D
    Denon 3805
    Rotel RB-985 5-Channel Amplifier

  • dipiazza
    dipiazza Posts: 363
    edited April 2006
    HAH!!! More like SEXY!
    Terps Swimming!
    HT Setup
    TV: Vizio VX32L
    Reciever: Pioneer VSX-D914
    HD-DVD Player: Toshiba HD-A2
    Fronts: Polk R50s
    Surounds: Polk R30s
    Center: Polk R20's
    Subwoofer: SVS 20-39PCi

    2CH Setup
    Integrated: Onix SP3 Tube
    CD Player: Sony CDP-CX355
    Speakers: Onix Strata Mini in PR Finish
    Signal Cable: Classic Speaker, Analog 1 IC

    Headphones
    Grado SR 60, Bang & Olufsen A8, Shure e3

    Other Stuff in Use
    Onix xls, Dual Onix x-subs, Onix Ref .5, Dahlquist M903, Teac A-1D, Marantz 1060
  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited April 2006
    Sexy? A round, hot-dog looking tube? You have to be kidding me.

    Friend: "Hey, what's that thing in your corner?"
    You: "It's my SUB WOOFER, couldn't you tell? Isn't it sexy?"
    Friend: "Uh, ya.. nice... uh, sub. Why doesn't it look like a regular sub?"
    You: "It's sexier this way."
    Friend: "Oh..."

    Give me a nice, suave box sub any day of the year. :D:D

    Friend: "WOW, check out that SUB dude! It's Freakin' HUGE!"
    You: "Ya..."
    Friend: "Man, I gotta get me one of those. Awesome!"
    You: "Ya..."
    Friend: "I love how sexy it looks!!!"
    You: "Ya, I know."

    Now THAT is sexy ;):D:)
    Honoured to be, an original SOPA founding member
    Stuff...

    RTi12's - front
    CSi5 - center
    FXi3's - surrounds
    RTi4's - surrounds
    SVS PB12-NSD/2 - sub :D:D:D
    Denon 3805
    Rotel RB-985 5-Channel Amplifier

  • AzN_plyR
    AzN_plyR Posts: 96
    edited April 2006
    This would be nice to you, and your cat :)
  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,724
    edited April 2006
    http://cgi.ebay.com/SVS-Subwoofer-20-39CS-Passive- Subwoofer_W0QQitemZ9714418791QQcategoryZ3275QQrdZ1<br />QQcmdZViewItem

    It is up to $202 as of this posting, with 4 days to go.

    ...which means it'll finally go for about $8650.
    Sal Palooza
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited April 2006
    The guy was trying to sell this on Audioholics for over a week...no takers at $375 + shipping before he went to ebay.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • gyusher
    gyusher Posts: 77
    edited April 2006
    I sold my 2039 for 400 bucks when it was almost 2 years old. . . They are not much more new. . .

    Say what you will but that round black water heater sitting in the corner has put big grins on many faces. . .
  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited April 2006
    Just a question. I have a Hafler dh-200 180watts pch @4ohms. How well would this vintage amp drive this sub?
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited April 2006
    jakelm wrote:
    Just a question. I have a Hafler dh-200 180watts pch @4ohms. How well would this vintage amp drive this sub?
    I would expect a solid 110db with that amp..... (maybe a little more, but you would be pushing things at that level....)

    Michael

    BTW - that is a yes.... :)
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited April 2006
    Thanks Michael. I read that SVS has power handling at 350watts. I just didnt want to invest if my little Hafler could do the job.\

    What do you have on your cs+?

    Now this sub would only be on one channel. So the wattage would only be around 180. I dont know if you understood this.

    Jake
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited April 2006
    The CS+ line (both mine and the one linked in the first message) are rated at 500 watts/channel.

    I am running 500/channel with 1100 watt peaks from my cinepro amp. (I am sure I am not really putting that much power to the sub, but my amp could bottom the sub)

    You would be down about 4-5db from a 500 watt amp with your Hafler. If you are running only one channel it will actually put out a little more power than the 180 it is rated at. Also, that is not taking into account peak power capabilites, and bass is all about peaks.... :)

    You will be fine and it will sound great. If you typically listen to a calibrated system at -7db or higher, you will be fine. (with some room to spare)

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited April 2006
    Thanks Michael. My system is calibrated at 75dbs and my subs, according to the rat shack spl meter, are 2-3dbs hot. My movie listening (again according to spl) is between 85 and 95dbs. So its above my reference abit.
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited April 2006
    jakelm wrote:
    Thanks Michael. My system is calibrated at 75dbs and my subs, according to the rat shack spl meter, are 2-3dbs hot. My movie listening (again according to spl) is between 85 and 95dbs. So its above my reference abit.
    But should still be well below reference level. -10db or so. (maybe -20 depending on if you are measuring bass peaks at 95 or 105db)

    You will be fine. I don't know what sub you are running now - but for HT, SVS is an awesome choice. (I don't do much critical 2 channel listening so I can't really comment on their musicality - but I know for home theater they are great.)

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited April 2006
    I believe you Michael. I just dont want to jump into this and then not be able to drive it. But I think you undersatnd.

    Excuse the ignorence but I thought reference level was between 75 and 85dbs? That would mean I would be between 65 and 75dbs, according to what you said.
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
  • plattq45
    plattq45 Posts: 50
    edited April 2006
    had the svs12isd and returned... not so great with music.
    hopefully the plus line gonna be better
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited April 2006
    jakelm wrote:
    I believe you Michael. I just dont want to jump into this and then not be able to drive it. But I think you undersatnd.

    Excuse the ignorence but I thought reference level was between 75 and 85dbs? That would mean I would be between 65 and 75dbs, according to what you said.
    When you calibrate your system at 75db you are playing a tone that is 30db below reference level. Reference level is (peaks mind you) of 105db from each channel and 115db from your sub.

    Some movies are "hotter" than others, (dts vs dd plus some just mix their sound levels high or low) but you get the idea.

    If you calibrate your system using video essentials to 75 db (when volume is set at 0db) you are calibrating to reference level. If you watch an average action movie in DD, and played it at -10db - you would have potential peaks from each channel at 95db and peaks from the subwoofer at 105db. (all calibrated from your seating position)

    For reference sake, playing a movie at -10db has damn loud peaks, but the voices are VERY easy to hear. (even whispering)

    the loudest I have gone for a movie is about -6db. (I did go to +5 db on one disk (fleetwood mac - the dance), but it is recorded very low) That was for a demo. -10 is about as loud as I will go for an entire movie and I actually watch most movies -15 to -20.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited April 2006
    plattq45 wrote:
    had the svs12isd and returned... not so great with music.
    hopefully the plus line gonna be better
    The plus line is better, but only you can say if it is good enough for you.

    I would say the normal things like did you work on placement, what was the room like, etc, but if you got another sub, put it in the same place, and liked it more - that is really all that counts.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)