XBox 360 Tips...

Demiurge
Demiurge Posts: 10,874
edited April 2008 in Video Games
When I went to purchase my last game I had a bit of a conversation with the manager of the video game store and he told me some info I wasn't aware of. He said to have your XBox 360 laying flat rather than standing upright. Being in the upright position the machines have the propensity to scratch the hell out of the discs in a circular motion. He showed me some of the discs that it happened to, and it wrecks havoc on the machines as well. Another obvious point was not to move the machine while a disk is either in the drive, or if the machine is running. That I knew, but I thought the other info was good.

Also, try to put something underneath the XBox so that it can get some cool air circulation going underneath the machine. That I knew too, but I figured that I would pass on that information.
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited April 2006
    good deal of info here, Demi. Thanks. Mine is standing up and I will need to make adjustment.
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  • lanion
    lanion Posts: 843
    edited April 2006
    Demiurge wrote:
    Being in the upright position the machines have the propensity to scratch the hell out of the discs in a circular motiQUOTE]

    People said the same thing about the PS2, but it never happened to me, so I don't know how true this is. Many people run 360s vertically with no problem, but I guess there is some risk. What is more confirmed is that if you change the orientation of your system (or move it at all) while the disc is spinning, you are asking for damage.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited April 2006
    Do whatever you want. Just passing along information as was given to me. I also saw with my own 2 eyes what happens. I don't think he was lying to me! ;)
  • lanion
    lanion Posts: 843
    edited April 2006
    Demiurge wrote:
    Do whatever you want. Just passing along information as was given to me. I also saw with my own 2 eyes what happens. I don't think he was lying to me! ;)

    Its possible you had an intelligent manager, but I once had a EB manager tell me that s-video wouldnt make any difference for Playstation 1 games because it was too low res, so I trust them loosely :)
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited April 2006
    I've used my machine both ways, and no problems so far. I prefer to lay it down on its side. Although, I don't like the fact that the disc and the hard drive are not in the same plane. I would prefer for all my spinning plates and discs to be parallel to the ground.
  • avelanchefan
    avelanchefan Posts: 2,401
    edited April 2006
    I have mine upright and no problems yet. But my system right now has to be upright. I do not think I have the space to turn it sideways/the normal way.
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  • Musophile
    Musophile Posts: 89
    edited April 2006
    I already had to send mine in to MS for service. They promptly sent me a new unit replacing mine but this time it had a big sticker on it saying don't move this unit while it's working. I never moved the unit but it was standing up. The MS service was really good about replacing my unit.
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  • SniperREX
    SniperREX Posts: 930
    edited April 2006
    Demiurge wrote:
    When I went to purchase my last game I had a bit of a conversation with the manager of the video game store and he told me some info I wasn't aware of. He said to have your XBox 360 laying flat rather than standing upright. Being in the upright position the machines have the propensity to scratch the hell out of the discs in a circular motion. He showed me some of the discs that it happened to, and it wrecks havoc on the machines as well. Another obvious point was not to move the machine while a disk is either in the drive, or if the machine is running. That I knew, but I thought the other info was good.

    Also, try to put something underneath the XBox so that it can get some cool air circulation going underneath the machine. That I knew too, but I figured that I would pass on that information.

    It's true, but only the first batch of 360 have that problem. They were missing a plastic piece to hold the DVD in place when the console is standing up.

    Anyway don't move the console while it's reading :D .


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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited April 2006
    Anyway don't move the console while it's reading

    Yeah, probably the most important point I was trying to make, and also common sense. haha. :cool:
  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited April 2006
    SniperREX wrote:
    It's true, but only the first batch of 360 have that problem.
    so have they released a gen-2 already?
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  • SniperREX
    SniperREX Posts: 930
    edited April 2006
    neomagus00 wrote:
    so have they released a gen-2 already?

    I'd call it 1.01 :D.


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  • iworkfortweeter
    iworkfortweeter Posts: 53
    edited April 2006
    Its possible you had an intelligent manager, but I once had a EB manager tell me that s-video wouldnt make any difference for Playstation 1 games because it was too low res, so I trust them loosely -lanion


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  • DJMoore22
    DJMoore22 Posts: 1
    edited May 2006
    I can attest to this. So far I've had Tiger Woods and Call of Duty get circular scratches on them to the point I can't play them anymore. Mine stands vertically and I've moved it while the system is one. Not sure what to do about though.
  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited March 2008
    My son's XBOX 360 has only ever sat horizontal and its hardly ever been moved. Just yeasterday I had Microsoft create a repair order for the machine as it has destroyed Guitar Hero II and Guitar Hero III with perfectly circular scratches on the discs.

    I'm guessing that the other games he has were not scratched because a) he hasn't played them nearly as much and b) Guitar Hero constantly reads from the disc during play.

    I have the extended warranty from BB, but this is one of those cases where I think I would prefer to send it in for repairs (and be without it for a month) than to return it for a new XBOX 360. After all, what gaurantees I'm getting an XBOX 360 without the same problem.

    Another issue is now Ive got to replace both Activision games at $20 per disc. That sucks. :(
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited March 2008
    Ah, nuts. I just recently set my 360 upright. Not sure where I'm going to stick it if it has to go horizontal.

    Thx for the info.

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  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited March 2008
    I was just told by a college-aged gamer coworker (okay, Im a bit older than college aged) who has the 360 that it should sit upright. Based on what I've read from this forum and the articles I've read from the internet, I dont think it matters how the device sits - you either have a XBOX 360 that isn't going to scratch the disc or you don't (and youll be sending it in to Microsost soon enough). I didn't argue this point with him....

    In other news, I have a self correction to make regarding Guitar Hero (Activision/Red Octane) - its going to cost $25 per game for replacement, not $20. :(
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  • BeRad
    BeRad Posts: 736
    edited March 2008
    I have fixed circular scratched discs for friends before. Got them running good as new with a little wet sanding and polishing. Couldn't tell the thing was ever scratched at all, although it certainly doesn't look pretty on the bottom anymore. Usually just thousands of very tiny marks that give it a hazed look. But who cares how it looks if it works right?
  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited March 2008
    Move the console from upright to horizontal or vice versa while it is running a game . . . this will give you some nice circular scratches unless you have a new drive that prevents the disc from wiggling during the motion.

    Have fun. Try it with a Blockbuster rental.
  • Imperitor
    Imperitor Posts: 235
    edited April 2008
    This happened to a friend of mine. Solid is right, standing the 360 up is no big deal, but moving from horizontal to vertical or vice versa while a game is running will ruin the disk. Luckily it happened to my friend right after he bought a new game so he was able to return the game.
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  • jflail2
    jflail2 Posts: 2,868
    edited April 2008
    I had a decent bit of advice from a friend that owns a 360. He actually uses a laptop cooling pad to keep his 360 cool when it is laid down flat. Interesting tidbit, and not an expensive addition if you're worried about heat.
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  • djlogix
    djlogix Posts: 115
    edited April 2008
    There are some easy fixes for the Disc Drive problems. Most notably is the little pads in the tray. I won't link to any sites (as I haven't fully read TOS yet) but if you do enough searching, you'll find all the information you need to fix Disc Drive problems of any kind on the Wii, 360, PS3 and many other systems.

    But yeah, I blame Microsoft for not sticking with the Tosh-Samsung drives. Probably the only bonehead move I think or feel they've made in the construction.
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