what do u guys think of JBL audios amps?

98thumpin
98thumpin Posts: 649
edited March 2006 in Car Audio & Electronics
i was looking at some of jbls amps and they seem pretty nice. to me im new at this. but i dont know theyre rep. good bad, waste of money? give m your opinions cause they have a GTO1201.1 II class d mono power amp.

The GTO1201.1 II features a high-frequency Class D switching power supply. This topology is more efficient that traditional Class AB designs, drawing far less current from your vehicle charging system.

The GTO1201.1 II features a 12dB per octave electronic crossover, allowing you to optimize bass performance based on cabin size, as well as subwoofer location and enclosure type.

• RCA low-level inputs.

• Full-range preamp outputs facilitate use of multiple amplifiers without the need for noisy and expensive adapters or signal splitters.

• A variable bass boost circuit is provided to optimize system response.

• Optional remote level bass control available.

SPECIFICATIONS
General
CEA Rated
Click here to learn about the new CEA2006 Amplifier Standard.
Power Output 787 watts RMS x 1 channel at 4 ohms
and ≤ 1% THD + N

1114 watts RMS x 1 channel at 2 ohms,
14.4V supply and ≤ 1% THD + N
Signal-to-Noise Ratio 70dBa (reference 1 watt into 4 ohms)
Dynamic Power 1339 watts at 2 ohms
Effective Damping Factor 6.348 at 4 ohms
Frequency Response (-3dB) 10Hz - 302Hz
Maximum Input Signal 6.1V
Maximum Sensitivity 140mV
Output Regulation .14dB at 4 ohms
Dimensions (H x W x D) 18-11/16" x 12-5/16" x 2-3/8"
MSRP U.S. $ $549.95

what do you guys think?
think itll be a good choice for the db212-2. i also looked at kenwood, but there amps are to powerful and cost to much.
John Tyler Birch

home audio system:

Denon avr-1907
Sony dvd/cd changer 5 disc
nakamichi BX-100 tape deck
2 Polk Audio monitor 70's
Velodyne DPS-12 subwoofer
RCA TV
NAK 600 tape deck
Monster power line conditioning power center
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  • dangerranger
    dangerranger Posts: 9
    edited March 2006
    my dad use to run sound back in his day and iv asked him about jbl and he said they are a good brand and iv read good reviews about jbl.i have never herd a amp but my mom has a lincoln that has jbl speakers and sounds danm good for stock.dont know if this is any help but in my opion i think there amps would be good if they make quality stuff
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited March 2006
    I wouldn't run anything by JBL, personally. I'll bet they're not near what they used to be 'back in the day'.
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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited March 2006
    JBL makes decent stuff. The gto series is not bad stuff but the power series is a lot better kind like polks db series compared to the momo series.

    Ive never heard a JBL amp but ive read reviews on them and they make a ton of clean power.

    But me personally amp wise i'd rather own something like a mtx amp over a JBL amp.
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited March 2006
    I'd rather have a Pheonix Gold amp then either an MTX or JBL (meaning the new MTX amps, that is).
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2006
    JBL is a very good amp. Theyve never been my favorite really but there is nothing wrong with them. If you can get a good price on them and they fit your needs, jump on it.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited March 2006
    i personally wouldnt mind having an amp designed by gary biggs and mark eldridge, but thats just me
    -Cody
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  • Topper
    Topper Posts: 403
    edited March 2006
    JBL amps (particularly the GTO series) are very popular where i am (mostly cus of the price) and they arent bad at all. But like the others said, if you got the moola for the Power series or the BPX mono range, you'll be a lot happier.

    Take note also that this amp doesnt have a subsonic filter and the crossover is just the regular 12db. The JBL BPX (Crown series) version has an adjustable subsonic filter as well as switchable 12/24db slopes for the low-pass. It can also do close to its max RMS power at almost all ohm loads (which gives you a heck of a lot more flexibility in your setups) compared to the amp you mentioned above. Only prob is its soo much more expensive.

    Nutshel - GTO aint bad but just be aware of its limitations.
  • 98thumpin
    98thumpin Posts: 649
    edited March 2006
    gotcha. i just noticed that with the gto series, they dont make too much power. im only gonna be pushing one db 212-2 subwoofer box so i dont need more than 1300 watts max, and the power series make to much wattage, and are to expensive.
    John Tyler Birch

    home audio system:

    Denon avr-1907
    Sony dvd/cd changer 5 disc
    nakamichi BX-100 tape deck
    2 Polk Audio monitor 70's
    Velodyne DPS-12 subwoofer
    RCA TV
    NAK 600 tape deck
    Monster power line conditioning power center
  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited March 2006
    don't look at max ratings, surely you've heard this before... rms is the only worthwhile rating to use...
    It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon

    "Its not good enough until we have real-time fearmongering. I want my fear mongered as it happens." - Shizelbs
  • Topper
    Topper Posts: 403
    edited March 2006
    What other amp brands and models you considering anyway? or got easy access to anyway? perhaps we could better help if we know all the options.


    (also dont worry too much bout the 'max' watt rating. just try to match or come close to the continuous/RMS/nominal watt rating)
  • 98thumpin
    98thumpin Posts: 649
    edited March 2006
    mtx, phoniex gold, kicker, jbl, kenwood, polk c500-1 =, arc audio, not to sure whatever will be awesome, and cost effective, mtx , kicker, a little to pricey for me.
    John Tyler Birch

    home audio system:

    Denon avr-1907
    Sony dvd/cd changer 5 disc
    nakamichi BX-100 tape deck
    2 Polk Audio monitor 70's
    Velodyne DPS-12 subwoofer
    RCA TV
    NAK 600 tape deck
    Monster power line conditioning power center
  • Topper
    Topper Posts: 403
    edited March 2006
    Well i checked out Sounddomain which carries most of those brands and kinda liked the following:

    - JBL BPX500.1 - $599 - CEA2006 rating says its about 700w at most ohm loads. Comes with tons of features but too darn expensive.
    - Kenwood KAC-9152D - $329 - seems pretty decent for the price but totally no clue bout kenwood gear so others better chip in on if its decent and stuff
    - JBL GTO1201.1 - The one your considering aint too bad and comes with a ton of power but not too sure how the lack of a subsonic filter will affect you
  • 98thumpin
    98thumpin Posts: 649
    edited March 2006
    i just want an amp that nor alot of people have. i wanna be semi unique. everyone i know has pioneer, or mtx, or god forbid jensen. thats why im starting to look at jbl, kenwood, arc audio, and others.
    John Tyler Birch

    home audio system:

    Denon avr-1907
    Sony dvd/cd changer 5 disc
    nakamichi BX-100 tape deck
    2 Polk Audio monitor 70's
    Velodyne DPS-12 subwoofer
    RCA TV
    NAK 600 tape deck
    Monster power line conditioning power center
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited March 2006
    Jensen. Rock-on.
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
  • 98thumpin
    98thumpin Posts: 649
    edited March 2006
    from what i heard jensen makes horrible subs what about there amps?
    John Tyler Birch

    home audio system:

    Denon avr-1907
    Sony dvd/cd changer 5 disc
    nakamichi BX-100 tape deck
    2 Polk Audio monitor 70's
    Velodyne DPS-12 subwoofer
    RCA TV
    NAK 600 tape deck
    Monster power line conditioning power center
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited March 2006
    Dude, it has got to be a sin to utter the names JBL and Kenwood in the same sentence with Arc Audio!
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB

    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii

    [Car Audio]
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  • jimmyjam_
    jimmyjam_ Posts: 8
    edited March 2006
    don't see mine everyday
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited March 2006
    ^^ That's for sure. And if you can still find MB Quart amps, they're really cheap, too. Well, usually.
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
    In Use
    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB

    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii

    [Car Audio]
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  • Topper
    Topper Posts: 403
    edited March 2006
    Alpine makes wonderful amps as well so do look inta those too if you get a chance.
  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited March 2006
    98thumpin wrote:
    i just want an amp that nor alot of people have. i wanna be semi unique. everyone i know has pioneer, or mtx, or god forbid jensen. thats why im starting to look at jbl, kenwood, arc audio, and others.


    Out of those, I would choose the Arc's stuff. Check your local dealers as they should be getting their new amps soon. Meaning nice discounts on last years stuff :).
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  • 98thumpin
    98thumpin Posts: 649
    edited March 2006
    oh cool i forgot about the end of the yeaR SALES. do amps just mainly come down to personal choice.
    John Tyler Birch

    home audio system:

    Denon avr-1907
    Sony dvd/cd changer 5 disc
    nakamichi BX-100 tape deck
    2 Polk Audio monitor 70's
    Velodyne DPS-12 subwoofer
    RCA TV
    NAK 600 tape deck
    Monster power line conditioning power center
  • bknauss
    bknauss Posts: 1,441
    edited March 2006
    You guys are funny...
    "I haven't ever listened to Brand X, but I would never buy them. I've heard Brand X isn't as good as they used to be".

    JBL is good at certain stuff. Don't lump their crappy home speakers with everything else.
    Brian Knauss
    ex-Electrical Engineer for Polk
  • 98thumpin
    98thumpin Posts: 649
    edited March 2006
    so jbl is good too ok. the thing id theres so many good companies out there its almost comes down to which amp looks better to the person buying it.
    John Tyler Birch

    home audio system:

    Denon avr-1907
    Sony dvd/cd changer 5 disc
    nakamichi BX-100 tape deck
    2 Polk Audio monitor 70's
    Velodyne DPS-12 subwoofer
    RCA TV
    NAK 600 tape deck
    Monster power line conditioning power center
  • Topper
    Topper Posts: 403
    edited March 2006
    Factor in the features you'll need. I know if i was buying a sub amp i'd want one with adjustable subsonic filter and with preferably steeper slopes for the crossover and then see which amps meet these requirements and then choose from there.

    And JBL definitely aint bad amps. Their BPX crown series amps are up there with some of the best.
  • 98thumpin
    98thumpin Posts: 649
    edited March 2006
    i looked into crossfire online. now let me remind u all im using polk audio db212-2 subs allright. they have a crossfire 1000 watt class d amp but its got a 1 ohmload, and the sub are 2 and 4 ohm load. they have a 2000 Watt amp with a 4 ohm load and its 1000 waatts at 4 ohms.
    John Tyler Birch

    home audio system:

    Denon avr-1907
    Sony dvd/cd changer 5 disc
    nakamichi BX-100 tape deck
    2 Polk Audio monitor 70's
    Velodyne DPS-12 subwoofer
    RCA TV
    NAK 600 tape deck
    Monster power line conditioning power center
  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited March 2006
    That is a good amount of power there. I am only running 400 watts to my sub :o .
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    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2006
    If a 2 ohm load is what youre running, Crossfire may not be your bag. All their Class D amps are 1 ohm stable which is good if youre running multiple subs or competing (classes are rated by the amps 4 ohm ratings) but suck if you dont want to pay for 1000 watts when you only want 750.

    For this I would recommend either the Polk 500.1 or one of MTX's amps.
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    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

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  • 98thumpin
    98thumpin Posts: 649
    edited March 2006
    does ne one know in actuality what the rms rating of the polk c500.1 is not max but rms what it really produces? and how much do they run.
    John Tyler Birch

    home audio system:

    Denon avr-1907
    Sony dvd/cd changer 5 disc
    nakamichi BX-100 tape deck
    2 Polk Audio monitor 70's
    Velodyne DPS-12 subwoofer
    RCA TV
    NAK 600 tape deck
    Monster power line conditioning power center
  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited March 2006
    almost 700, i believe, RMS in reality (with a good power source)

    and i think they msrp at 450
    It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon

    "Its not good enough until we have real-time fearmongering. I want my fear mongered as it happens." - Shizelbs
  • 98thumpin
    98thumpin Posts: 649
    edited March 2006
    450 sure is better than $800.
    John Tyler Birch

    home audio system:

    Denon avr-1907
    Sony dvd/cd changer 5 disc
    nakamichi BX-100 tape deck
    2 Polk Audio monitor 70's
    Velodyne DPS-12 subwoofer
    RCA TV
    NAK 600 tape deck
    Monster power line conditioning power center