Polk Audio DB6500

cam5860
cam5860 Posts: 632
edited March 2006 in Car Audio & Electronics
I just installed a set of these components yesterday and just let me start by saying they sound pretty damn good.

I replaced these in the place of a set of polkmomo mmc650's. So I figured they would not sound quite as good boy was I wrong.

In my opinion they sound a good bit better. I decided to put tweeters in the A pillars for the stage it would offer and I feel it payed off.

At first I was kinda worried that they would be lacking midbass but that was not the case. They have decent midbass not as good as the momo's though.

After hearing this component set there's one thing that's for sure i'll never own another coaxial speaker. Components just sound to much better to be settling for a coaxial.

Far as powering these components I am powering them with the polkmomo C400.4.

All in all Im very pleased with this set worth 169.99 in my opinion. Here are a few pics of the install.
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited March 2006
    Glad you like it.

    Wondering about one thing, that is a whole lot of seperation you have there between the midrange driver and the tweeter. Did you wire the tweeter out of phase?
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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited March 2006
    No they are wired in phase. You think I should try wiring them out of phase? Also do you think the location of my tweeters are okay or should have I mounted them in the doors?
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2006
    You can try and experiment with phasing although Ive never noticed any advantage and barely any difference at all when Ive messed with it so all mine are in phase.

    Secondly, its not the distance that is the problem its the height of the tweeter. That is a little too far up on the A's I would think. It wont affect SQ as much as it will mess up your stage and imaging. You rarely want your tweeters much higher than the dash. The stage is supposed to be eye level and with the tweeters that high up I doubt that would be the case.
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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited March 2006
    So your saying they should have been mounted in about the middle of the A pillars?
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2006
    I cant say for sure without test fitting them in different locations for best sound but I will say that I doubt they wouldve needed to be mounted more than about 6" above the dash. Mine are mounted about 4" above the dash and my stage is just a smidge below eye level.
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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited March 2006
    Man I wish I had of ask about that before I installed them. Im kinda stuck now with where there at unless I buy new A pillars
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2006
    LOL!! Holes of Shame are common in car audio.

    You can always run down to your local junk yard. Im sure theyll have a car like yours somewhere in there and theyll usually sell you the A pillars out of there for less than $50.
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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited March 2006
    The reason I put them up high was because ive seen alot of people put them there though the years.
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited March 2006
    My local junkyards have been very nice to me :). Got a set of window sales for $15 bucks a couple weeks back. Changed my mind about my tweeter location :D.
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2006
    cam5860 wrote:
    The reason I put them up high was because ive seen alot of people put them there though the years.


    Cant imagine why. Hell bro, dont take my word for it, Im far from an expert on anything (except procrastination. I seem to take that to a new level). If you like the way they sound up there then leave em there.
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited March 2006
    It's all about what sounds good to your ears.
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited March 2006
    My problem is that my ears just keep changing their mind :D......
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2006
    Alright audiobliss. Enough with the double posting......post ****! :p
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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited March 2006
    Hell bro I believe you know what your talking about you have heard what the judges have had to say about your system. I like the way it sounds with them there. But I want it to be right you know what I mean.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2006
    If you like it, then it is right.

    You should take em out and give em a listen in various other spots. If you like their current location then leave em there. Unless youre wanting to compete dont worry about what judges think! ;)
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited March 2006
    Where is audiobliss........

    :confused:

    :D
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited March 2006
    Also a installer at a local audio shop told me he liked the way they sound up high in the A pillars. Thats another reason I stuck them there. But hell who knows.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2006
    Like I said:
    MacLeod wrote:
    If you like it, then it is right.

    You should take em out and give em a listen in various other spots. If you like their current location then leave em there. Unless youre wanting to compete dont worry about what judges think! ;)
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited March 2006
    long wire + duct tape + patience .... move the tweeters around by duct taping htem up in various places.... find the sweet spot and then bolt the **** down for good.

    me.... i just drill and then check later -- thats why i'm on audio system # 50 in only a few years...
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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited March 2006
    I just remembered that I bought some 3M mounting tape a while back that would be prefect for the task. Im going to move them around some and see what I come up with.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2006
    Im with Vinny. I did the test fit thing maybe twice and then said Eff it! I wanna mount these things! Patience is not one of my virtues.
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  • Topper
    Topper Posts: 403
    edited March 2006
    yo CAM5860 just outta curiosity, could you tell me how your MMC650 we're installed before you switched them for the DB6500s. We're they also powered by the same amp? And did anything else get upgraded when you switched the speaks?

    Also as for the improvement in sound, was it because of the higher stage noticed cus of the placement of the tweets? or would love to hear more about your comparison of the two sets of speaks as am seriously considering one of em for my new frontstage.
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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited March 2006
    The mmc650's were in the doors as shown in picture. I was running them off the polkmomo c400.4 amp. Nothing else was upgraded but Rca cables same headunit Alpine 9833.

    I mean yeah the staging does help but the difference is a lot far as sound quality goes. There just so much clearer and the mids sound much better too not as deep as the momo's but cleaner sound in my opinion.

    I used to love coaxials before I listened to this component set after this there's no turning back components for me from here on out.
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited March 2006
    That's the way to go :D.
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited March 2006
    Glad you're liking your db6500's, man. There's no replacement for displacemnt! Oh wait, I meant to say components...that don't rhyme....

    Like Mac says, if you're happy with the sound, then the tweeters are placed correctly. Just don't go asking a judge what he thinks...he might not be right....:D

    Enjoy, dude! And I'd suggest you ride around for about an hour tonight tweaking your system. :D
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2006
    audiobliss wrote:
    Like Mac says, if you're happy with the sound, then the tweeters are placed correctly. Just don't go asking a judge what he thinks...he might not be right

    Only if he's a USACi judge, then he'll just tell you to get a center channel. speechless-smiley-034.gif
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited March 2006
    Pretty smart judges........
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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    Second Skin
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2006
    Umm, no.
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  • 98thumpin
    98thumpin Posts: 649
    edited March 2006
    you all said that the tweeters were to high but on this website polk audio says the higher the better.
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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited March 2006
    I think they sound good high. I had those 4x6's in the dash bouncing off the windshield at ear level and it sound good but the tweeters up high sound much better to me.
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