LSi9's for HT

janmike
janmike Posts: 6,146
edited March 2006 in Speakers
I am thinking about upgrading my HT system. Currrently I have:

2 RTi100's (front)
2 RTi6's (rear)
1 CSi5 (centre)

Driven with:
Rotel RB-1080 (front) & Yamaha RX-V1500

My thought is to replace all the speakers with 4 LSi9's and 1 LSiC.

Any thoughts as to this configuration as well as the gear to drive all 5 speakers. Thanks.
Michael ;)
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  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited March 2006
    I considered using 9's for my surrounds, but decided they would not be used to potential, so I bought a pair of 7's and saved some $$. (I'm sure your amp/reciever will thank you as well...:D
  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited March 2006
    if you havent allready, try moving those rti6's to the front. will give you an idea what the new RTi series will sound like timbre matched, you might still want more, but at least you can try it for free with what you got in house.

    move the rti100's to surrounds for now (overkill for surrounds? sure), but again, to timbre match the front soundstage is a good thing in my opinion, and you might be surprised with the results.
    Living Room 2 Channel -
    Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.

    Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
    Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.

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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited March 2006
    I moved the speakers around and there is a huge difference. I did not change the power allocation (Rotel - front / Yamaha - rear) and will probably keep it like this for a while. The sound seems to have more fullness to it and I think I like the added bass in the back a lot better. Time will tell. Still, if I can dump what I have I am still considering the LSi upgrade. Not sure at this point which ones.
    Michael ;)
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited March 2006
    I would go 9s all the way around if you can and do the LSiC for center.

    If not, you could always go 9s and then FX.

    I had the 9s and the 7s... but something was awkward with the sound - a little more pronounced vocals with the 7s and it didnt sound as coherent in multichannel audio. I would definitely timber match completely.

    Go to ebay, buy it from ASD for 650$ or so an LSi9 pair.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited March 2006
    I thinking 9's all round. As for power. I have seen a lot of views on this one. Currently I have a Yamaha RX-V1500 and a Rotel RB1080. Would this suffice for HT for now. Later I was thinking of selling the 1080 and purchasing a 1095.
    Michael ;)
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited March 2006
    I used to have Rti100s as fronts. I got the LSi15s and moved the Rtis to surround duty. It worked out really well until I could get my current set up in the new crib.

    I would also go 9's all around (including center) if you listen to mostly music but I would recommend the LSifx as surrounds for flicks depending on your room.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • *Seby*-Polk-
    *Seby*-Polk- Posts: 375
    edited March 2006
    LSi9 are outstanding speakers. Excellent quality. Same the LSiC. if you upgrade your system for those speakers, you'll won't be dissapointed ;)

    Anyway, try to listen them.
    My current new system (step by step :D)

    A/V Receiver: YAMAHA RX-V657
    DVD Player: YAMAHA DVD-S657
    Main Towers: polkaudio® Monitor 50
    Wiring: NeoTecH KS1007 OFC High Definition Speaker Cable ( 2 x 2.64 mm² )
  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited March 2006
    Well if I can uload some of this gear up here I think the LSi9's are the way to go. Unfortunately there are no dealers around to audition them, so I will go on the sound advice all you Polk Folk always offer. Thanks.
    Michael ;)
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited March 2006
    I love my 9's and C. But I HIGHLY recommend upgrading to a 5ch amp though. Otherwise you WILL hear a distinct difference in the center and fronts. Trust me, I did the 2ch. route for a while and I hated the center.
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited March 2006
    You are exactly right Toxis. The amp would have to change or add a 3CH for the centre and the rears. Too many things on the list at this moment.
    Michael ;)
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  • tdeluce
    tdeluce Posts: 107
    edited March 2006
    Toxis wrote:
    I love my 9's and C. But I HIGHLY recommend upgrading to a 5ch amp though. Otherwise you WILL hear a distinct difference in the center and fronts. Trust me, I did the 2ch. route for a while and I hated the center.

    3 channel for the front LCRs is the way to go.

    You can use a smaller stereo amp or a couple smaller monoblocks for
    surrounds. The surrounds simply do not need the same amplification
    as the LCRs...

    The above scenario will also allow you to upgrade more often :-)
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited March 2006
    I emailed Rotel and made inquiries into using the RB-1080 to run a pair of LSi9's. I actually forwarded the specs on the LSi9’s from the Polk web site without disclosing the name of the speakers. The response I received back is as follows:


    "Depending on how loud you play them this amplifier will reach power of 350 in to 4 ohms."


    "These speakers are not very efficient. You may find yourself turning them up to hear them properly. You also may find that because this amplifier is so clean that you can turn it up and will not hear any distortion, and perhaps you will blow your speakers. Try to be reserved when using this amplifier with these speakers."
    Michael ;)
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited March 2006
    janmike wrote:
    "Depending on how loud you play them this amplifier will reach power of 350 in to 4 ohms."


    "These speakers are not very efficient. You may find yourself turning them up to hear them properly. You also may find that because this amplifier is so clean that you can turn it up and will not hear any distortion, and perhaps you will blow your speakers. Try to be reserved when using this amplifier with these speakers."

    At max (continuous) power they should be putting out well over 100db. (around 110db at one meter) Peaks would be above that. I guess it just depends on how "properly" you need to hear them.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited March 2006
    THe 1080 should have an easy time powering the 9s. My 1070 did.
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited March 2006
    BTW - I never had any issues feeding my LSi7's (rated at 150 watts / channel) power from my 500 watt Cinepro.

    If the amp sounds clear or not - when the speakers starts to strain the soundstage will start to collapse. When that happens, just turn it down. It is easy to hear, and you should notice it right away.

    Don't worry - the amp isn't the only thing that will tell you when you are reaching the limits of your system.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited March 2006
    LSI 9's for the LCR
    LSIfx for the surrounds.
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
  • wirebill
    wirebill Posts: 63
    edited March 2006
    Hello Mike,
    You have a P.M.
    Thanks,
    Bill
  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited March 2006
    tdeluce wrote:
    3 channel for the front LCRs is the way to go.

    You can use a smaller stereo amp or a couple smaller monoblocks for
    surrounds. The surrounds simply do not need the same amplification
    as the LCRs...

    The above scenario will also allow you to upgrade more often :-)
    Personally, this has the same mental thought as the old pro logic days. Sorry, I'm all about equal power.
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited March 2006
    Totally agree Toxis.
    I'm no expert, but I will go one of two ways. Either purchase a 3CH 200 watts amp for the rearss and centre or trade in the Rotel and purchase a 5CH 200+ wpc amp.
    Michael ;)
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  • DiscoMike
    DiscoMike Posts: 114
    edited March 2006
    I have a pair of LSi9's for sale if anyone is interested.
  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited March 2006
    Exactly my thinking as well. So I either dump the 1080 and buy a 1095 or find a 993 to compliment the 1080. The really like Rotel for HT. In the end, 200w all round.
    Michael ;)
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