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tonyb · February 2006

I could be wrong,but some one settle this arguement i am having with a friend.When you connect a CD player or even a DVD player by the digital connection to a avr or processor,you are useing the DAC in the processor or AVR.True or not?You turn your cd player into an expensive transport.Iknow this has been discussed.Of coarse there are exceptions....but generally speaking,YES OR NO....Deal..or no Deal. {love that show}

amulford · February 2006

your using the receiver's DAC. Kinda maybe. Which one has better DAC's? which one sounds better?

michael_w · February 2006

Yeah when you hook it up like that you're using the avr's dac. If you use analog connections then it lets the dac in the player do it's thing.

ND13 · February 2006

Ci..

heiney9 · February 2006

Yes, but you have to determine which sounds better to you. It's a strech to say if you do it this way your turning your cdp into an expensive transport. It's still the same transport no matter how you decide to hook it up.

YES.

H9

*Seby*-Polk- · February 2006

michael_w wrote:

Yeah when you hook it up like that you're using the avr's dac. If you use analog connections then it lets the dac in the player do it's thing.

THIS IS IT. When you use a digital connection (optical-coaxial) you're using the Avr's DAC. If you use the analog (composite) connections, you're using the Cd-Dvd's DAC.

Anyway..try to uses digital !!!!

tonyb · February 2006

Thanks guys,you just won me 20 bucks.It was a theoretic question ,I do not have that problem,just a point of contention between me and a pal.Thanks for you response....and NOOOO not shareing the 20.00

cmy330go · February 2006

*Seby*-Polk- wrote:

....If you use the analog (composite) connections, you're using the Cd-Dvd's DAC.

"Composite" is a video connection.

Just a FYI.:)

ND13 · February 2006

I thought component was video and composite was analog

*Seby*-Polk- · February 2006

cmy330go wrote:

"Composite" is a video connection.

Just a FYI.:)

You're right !!! . Thanks for the correction cmy ....

cmy330go · February 2006

ND13 wrote:

I thought component was video and composite was analog

Both are video, and both are analog. Composite is a single RCA style connector (usually yellow). Component is 3 RCA style (sometimes BNC) connections and are Red, Green, Blue.

Digital video is either DVI or HDMI.

steveinaz · March 2006

Due to tests I've done with a 4 year old $129 panasonic dvd (weighs about a pound wet), I can say with some confidence that sonic differences in DAC's are far greater than differences in transports, speaking in relative terms.

heiney9 · March 2006

steveinaz wrote:

Due to tests I've done with a 4 year old $129 panasonic dvd (weighs about a pound wet), and can say with some confidence that sonic differences in DAC's are far greater than differences in transports, speaking in relative terms.

I'd have to agree.

I opened up a Pioneer DVD player from about 4 years ago and was completely disappointed with what I found (or didn't find) inside. Nothing more than a drive and a small pc board. The PS was so small it was laughable. If I didn't have an outboard DAC, I would listen to any DVD's at all.

H9

steveinaz · March 2006

I ran my Panny for a week into my DAC as a CD transport, the differences from my $600 C.E.C. were so subtle I would suspect that it was the lower grade Toslink connection that the Panny uses for slightly better performance of the C.E.C. I would bet that if the Panny had a coax dig out, I probably wouldn't have heard any difference between the two...that's how close it was.

noimposse · March 2006

I think Ill chime in here with my own question....

So if you are using digital, thus not using the dac in the dvd player, what differentiates the 100 dollar sony dvd play from a 2000 Denon dvd player?

I'm assuming video correct? If not please correct me, I would like to know.

tonyb · March 2006

AAAHHHHH.....I see I started something here.

steveinaz · March 2006

Yes, video quality, upgraded power supply, better build-hence better transport isolation, etc, etc...

PolkThug · March 2006

noimposse wrote:

I think Ill chime in here with my own question....

So if you are using digital, thus not using the dac in the dvd player, what differentiates the 100 dollar sony dvd play from a 2000 Denon dvd player?

I'm assuming video correct? If not please correct me, I would like to know.

VIDEO!

noimposse · March 2006

Alright, I was just making sure. So theoretically, if I have a sub-par Sony player with coax out, but only a small Sony Trinitron CRT, there really isnt a point in me spending 500+ on a dvd player so long as I have a good reciever and speaker setup?

tonyb · March 2006

There are alot of variables in this,if you want better video yeah,can your tv support that better video,hmmmm....IMHO,the difference in a 200.00 player and a 500.00 player is mediocre at best.Want sacd then upgrade the player.
Want better audio and video,you must also get a display that will keep up.And a machine with a decent dac for audio.Again IMHO,save your dough and make it count when you move up.Just my 2cw.

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