It's all about music

LuSh
LuSh Posts: 887
edited March 2006 in 2 Channel Audio
On Audiogon I'm forever talking about music, it's dawned on me that music isn't a major theme here. I hope to change that.

I'm a long time hard rock fan. Nirvana, Led Zeppelin, Nine Inch Nails, was my time. Hell I own a Krell what else could i be. But I've also come to like electronic like Bjork, Massive Attack, Portishead among others. Lately (this past weekend) i decided to roll the dice. I was bored of rock and bought Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue" oh my is this a great album. Lyrics? We don't need no stupid lyric's. I listened to "So What" and loved it. Then somebody told me to imagine what the horn was saying. It said "So What" I know im late on the scene but this boggled my mind. This was Hendrix before there was a Hendrix. I can't wait to explore further into Jazz. Dave Brubeck and John Coultrane are next on my hit list.

I really think this forum should start a music section. I know I'd post.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited February 2006
    Very cool man.

    Music is what drives us.Most of us in here are all gear heads( I know I am). I can talk about the gear way more then the music I listen to with it. Funny how I catch myself being way more into the gear. I can go to a record store and come home with nothing. Sned me to an Audio/Video store and I will make a list.

    Changing music styles is very cool. You will find how all music relates to each other. It's the same cords, notes played in different orders with different tempos.

    Have fun man maybe this will kick off well.

    Dan
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited February 2006
    LuSh wrote:
    I really think this forum should start a music section. I know I'd post.


    Hey, you're in luck! There's one already...it's called "Music and Movies" :p
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  • speakergeek
    speakergeek Posts: 555
    edited February 2006
  • LuSh
    LuSh Posts: 887
    edited February 2006
    I know there is a movie/music section I just find it devoted to movies more or less.
  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,335
    edited February 2006
    "Kind of Blue" is very cool! Try another one from Miles: "**** Brew". Recorded around 1970. Great music and album art.
    Carl

  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,551
    edited February 2006
    Lush my friend, we already have a music thread. http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16043

    1492 posts and 19,016 views to date. Enjoy!
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  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited February 2006
    Music? :rolleyes:

    Who wants to talk about music?

    I hate music.:p
  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited February 2006
    BobMcG wrote:
    Music? :rolleyes:

    Who wants to talk about music?

    I hate music.:p

    Yeah we all know Bob, audio books in SDA is where its at!;) Give Bob a good Oprah Book Of The Month Club on CD and he's in heaven.
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited February 2006
    Yep, the only good thing about music is that it gives a medium with which to critique our systems. :rolleyes: Sheesh, don't get wrapped up in the irrelevant things.
    2 channel - Willsenton R8 tube integrated, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE DAC, audio optimized NUC7i5, Windows 10 Pro/JRiver MC29/Fidelizer Plus 8.7 w/LPS and external SSD drive, PS Audio PerfectWave P3 regenerator, KEF R3 speakers, Rythmik F12SE subwoofer, Audioquest Diamond USB cable, Gabriel Gold IC's, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables. Computer - Windows 10/JRiver, Schiit Magni 3+/Modi 3+, Fostex PMO.4n monitors, Sennheiser HD600 headphones
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited February 2006
    To be into gear like all of us here are, and to be seriously into gear like many of us here you have to love music. Why else would one put so much time, effort and money into a system, especially us 2 channel guys. For me it's about the music. Music is a very integral part of my life. I enjoy many many different types of music by many different artists. I seriously couldn't live without at least a decent small system. I get no enjoyment out of using music as background noise or listening to it on a very mediocre system.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited February 2006
    heiney9 wrote:
    To be into gear like all of us here are, and to be seriously into gear like many of us here you have to love music. Why else would one put so much time, effort and money into a system, especially us 2 channel guys. For me it's about the music. Music is a very integral part of my life. I enjoy many many different types of music by many different artists. I seriously couldn't live without at least a decent small system. I get no enjoyment out of using music as background noise or listening to it on a very mediocre system.

    H9

    Here, here!


    Err, I mean...
    Hear, hear!:D
  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited February 2006
    Yeah we all know Bob, audio books in SDA is where its at!;) Give Bob a good Oprah Book Of The Month Club on CD and he's in heaven.

    Hey!:eek:

    Who let the cat out of the bag?
  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited February 2006
    I find the better my system gets (particularly 2 channel) the more diverse my music selection became. I have a friend in the ground floor of this hobby learning the same exact thing.
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    Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
    Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.

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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited February 2006
    I'm a big rock fan as well. Agree 100% that we need to focus more on the music and less on the equipment. To me it's a sign that your system is performing well when your focus changes. The combo of my DAC and new speakers got me there. I've just been listening and enjoying ever since, with no desire to upgrade/change anything audio.
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  • daniel_paul_
    daniel_paul_ Posts: 189
    edited February 2006
    Much of the music I listen to is recorded by a "taper" at a small, dirty venue. Legal boot-legging. I found on my buddie's $20,000+ Vandersteen setup that much of the music I listened to sounded like crap. His stuff was better then the music recordings in my library. He ended up serching for good recordings instead of listining to the stuff he loved. I found this very interesting. I have to believe that many of you have gone down the same path.?
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited February 2006
    Much of the music I listen to is recorded by a "taper" at a small, dirty venue. Legal boot-legging. I found on my buddie's $20,000+ Vandersteen setup that much of the music I listened to sounded like crap. His stuff was better then the music recordings in my library. He ended up serching for good recordings instead of listining to the stuff he loved. I found this very interesting. I have to believe that many of you have gone down the same path.?

    That is exactly how I pick out new music. It has to have a certain level recording quality for me to listen to it. The artisit can be great and the music composition can be great, but if it's recorded and mixed like crap it's very hard for me to enjoy. Of course there are exceptions to this in my music collection. One thing I won't tolerate is these massively compressed, clipped, loud, no dynamics recordings that are the norm today for popular music. It sounds like absolute crap on my system and isn't enjoyable in the least.


    I do listen to bootlegs alot which I understand are inferior. I listen to alot of live recordings. I put up with lesser recordings as long as they don't exhibit what I described above. One artist that comes to mind is Lenny Kravitz or the new U2-How to Dismantle An Atomic Bomb. Unlistenable, IMO.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • daniel_paul_
    daniel_paul_ Posts: 189
    edited February 2006
    Fortunately for my bank account, I realized that the music is my love, not the gear. My setup is good enough to appreciate great recordings and not great enough to suffer theough the live shows that really move me.

    I do respect and understand the hi-fi sector. It just isn't my driving goal. If any of you have seen Howie Day, live a few years ago, you will understand.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited February 2006
    Fortunately for my bank account, I realized that the music is my love, not the gear. My setup is good enough to appreciate great recordings and not great enough to suffer theough the live shows that really move me.

    It's definetly a balancing act. Music is my love as well. Unfortuneatly as I've moved up the audio chain a few recordings get left behind. I assume this will happen when I make that next jump. I'm older now (approaching 40) and my musical tates have changed and seem to be in tune with a higher end (midfi) system I have right now. In the next year I'll be moving on up.....

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited March 2006
    The better the artist the less recording magic/manipulation needed. I have recordings that are not necessarily stellar but the music is just so good I listen to them. Miles Davis is certainly in this class.

    There is a dichotomy in audio between musical gear and accurate gear. Neither being right or wrong just the path an individual may like in the hobby.

    I recall we used to go through the Alaphabet talking about different artists, that was kind of fun.

    So what bands/artists do it for you who start with "A"

    AC/DC
    Animals

    And so on.

    RT1
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited March 2006
    Allman Bros
    Aerosmith
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited March 2006
    Much of the music I listen to is recorded by a "taper" at a small, dirty venue. Legal boot-legging. I found on my buddie's $20,000+ Vandersteen setup that much of the music I listened to sounded like crap. His stuff was better then the music recordings in my library. He ended up serching for good recordings instead of listining to the stuff he loved. I found this very interesting. I have to believe that many of you have gone down the same path.?

    Unfortunately, hi-fi is double edged sword; the better the equipment, the more flaws in the recording become apparent.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited March 2006
    I recall we used to go through the Alaphabet talking about different artists, that was kind of fun.

    So what bands/artists do it for you who start with "A"

    Better yet...Tour made us a list of all the bands/artists that were discussed in those threads. Here is the thread...

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12070

    He was also kind enough to attach a link to each indidvidual alphabet thread if you would like to read more.

    That was a fun few months....and the threads helped me increase my CD library and decrease my bank account.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited March 2006
    That is a cool thread. I bumped it.

    How about Alice Cooper???????

    Now he is a golfer and Calloway Golf nut. I have quite a few of their clubs in my bag, but not a single one of his CD's. Man we used to where his stuff out in my teen years, going to have to pick up Billion Dollar Babies.
  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited March 2006
    That is a cool thread. I bumped it.

    How about Alice Cooper???????

    Now he is a golfer and Calloway Golf nut. I have quite a few of their clubs in my bag, but not a single one of his CD's. Man we used to where his stuff out in my teen years, going to have to pick up Billion Dollar Babies.

    Love It To Death ("I'm Eighteen") and Welcome To My Nightmare are a couple of Alice Cooper Albums to have as well.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2006
    ohskigod wrote:
    I find the better my system gets (particularly 2 channel) the more diverse my music selection became.

    The opposite thing happened for me. I got rid of most of my CDs and focused almost exclusively on contemporary jazz. Might explore blues next, though. BTW, I disliked jazz before the tube gear arrived.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2006
    LuSh wrote:
    On Audiogon I'm forever talking about music, it's dawned on me that music isn't a major theme here. I hope to change that.

    I'm a long time hard rock fan. Nirvana, Led Zeppelin, Nine Inch Nails, was my time. Hell I own a Krell what else could i be. But I've also come to like electronic like Bjork, Massive Attack, Portishead among others. Lately (this past weekend) i decided to roll the dice. I was bored of rock and bought Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue" oh my is this a great album. Lyrics? We don't need no stupid lyric's. I listened to "So What" and loved it. Then somebody told me to imagine what the horn was saying. It said "So What" I know im late on the scene but this boggled my mind. This was Hendrix before there was a Hendrix. I can't wait to explore further into Jazz. Dave Brubeck and John Coultrane are next on my hit list.

    I really think this forum should start a music section. I know I'd post.


    if you post more threads about music.. people will contribute to them.. so get some going.

    :)
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited March 2006
    So this is the link that prompted the "bump"... (that lived in the house that shack built...)
    shack wrote:
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12070

    That was a fun few months....and the threads helped me increase my CD library and decrease my bank account.
    Ditto....
    (24 weeks) of fun and music... and nothing BUT fun and music and I God bless you for it...
    More later,
    Tour...
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited March 2006
    And where is the player that played the CD... (that lived in the house that Shack bulit)
  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited March 2006
    Easy to tell who has raised kids...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner

    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited March 2006
    I have always been a music lover and since the early eighties i have had nice Harmon kardon recievers and Polk loudspeakers and about four years ago i started getting into seperates. while my system was constantly improving with better power amps and loudspeakers, CDPs and preamplifiers i noticed that the number of recordings that i enjoyed began to get smaller and smaller. the most recent version of my two channel rig is also the most musical that i have owned since going to seperates and it all boils down to synergy. the preamplifier, CDP,monoblocks,cables and loudspeakers are giving me a detailed but not to the point of being sterile or clinical, window into the sound.i am starting to get back into the music instead of wondering how or what i can do to improve my two channel rig. i am really happy with my current system and thats a good thing!;)its finally time for me to spend some money on buying more music for a change! thanks....WCW III
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