The Great Debate (again)

madmax · February 2006

bikezappa wrote:

Correct.

Maybe this story is about a women lifting a car occurred on the moon.

Thats just plain silly, there are no cars on the moon. On Mars, maybe.
madmax

heiney9 · February 2006

shack wrote:

I know in the past I have stated that I don't really care what anyone else thinks about the "Great Cable Debate" so I made it a point to stay out of this thread.

However, given the new parameters....I would also like to state that I could give a rat's **** whether or not a woman can/can't lift a car and whether it does/doesn't defy the laws of physics.

Come on Shack......this discussion directly affects how cables sound in a given hi-fi rig :rolleyes:

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Madmax...I don't think there is any fuel on Mars for the cars to run on. I know the oil companies like to expand their market, but I think it would cost more to transport fuel to mars than what they could potentially sell. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say......no, there are no cars on Mars. Cars on the moon? Some believe we never actually went to the moon.....so how would the cars get there? I'd say this discussion is for Earth bound situations..........

H9

bikezappa · February 2006

Madmax

You can't listen to music on the moon either because of the vacuum there.

Shack

Suppose the women looked really hot and lifted the car nude, would you be interested then?

shack · February 2006

bikezappa wrote:

Shack

Suppose the women looked really hot and lifted the car nude, would you be interested then?

No...not really. I think hot, nude women should be doing nomal things...you know...like bending in all sorts of contorted positions, playing sports...stuff like that. NOT lifting burning cars off of children....definte turn-off factor there.

Now Wonder Woman or Super Girl doing the car lifting thing in the nude...maybe...since that would normal activity for them (and pretty hot IMO).

PolkThug · February 2006

I'm diappointed, where's Jstas with the Snopes on women lifting cars?

F1nut · February 2006

only our perception of what amount of force we think a woman can generate.

And therefore is an exception to the rule.

Early B. · February 2006

How the hell did this thread evolve into hot, nude female car lifters?

Damn audiophiles. Some of you guys have strange perversions.

F1nut · February 2006

Early B. wrote:

Damn audiophiles. Some of you guys have strange perversions.

Can't agrue about that one, but we also are some of the nicest folks you'd want to meet.

dorokusai · February 2006

F1nut wrote:

Can't agrue about that one, but we also are some of the nicest folks you'd want to meet.

Not really.

Holydoc · February 2006

You know...now that I think about it, nude female car lifting ladies swapping out my IC and other cables could possibly cause me to hear a difference in sound quality.

I think I will attempt to test this theory this weekend. And again on Monday... maybe Tuesday too....well, ok...until I get it right!

steveinaz · February 2006

One time I lifted a car up on the moon that had a naked woman in it. It was cool.

dragon1952 · February 2006

steveinaz wrote:

One time I lifted a car up on the moon that had a naked woman in it. It was cool.

Wow....very cool! I think I saw that on the Ed Sullivan Show.

F1nut · February 2006

I forgot.....with the exception of Mark.

PolkThug · February 2006

I lifted the A-Team van at Universal Studios. It was specially made for the scene where B.A. lifts the van so they can change the tire.

marker · February 2006

Question on a hypothetical situation here, how many here believe that if you have say a $1500 budget for a system, that if you get say a $300 dollar cd player, $300 integrated, $300 speakers, $300 interconnect, and $300 speaker wires, that it will sound better than a system with a $500 cd player, $500 integrated amp and $500 speakers with real cheap interconnects and wire?

IOW, that the more expensive wire and cables will actually improve the performance of the components to the level of their better model counterparts?

scottyf · February 2006

You'd have to listen to the different components to see. I suspect that would not be the case, but until you listen, you can't make generalizations.

I can hear differences in cables. In my system, my Musical Concept interconnects and Goertz speaker cable produce the best synergy. Until I hear something better (and I'm not looking) I am very pleased with these cables and I didn't spend a truckload.

heiney9 · February 2006

marker wrote:

Question on a hypothetical situation here, how many here believe that if you have say a $1500 budget for a system, that if you get say a $300 dollar cd player, $300 integrated, $300 speakers, $300 interconnect, and $300 speaker wires, that it will sound better than a system with a $500 cd player, $500 integrated amp and $500 speakers with real cheap interconnects and wire?

IOW, that the more expensive wire and cables will actually improve the performance of the components to the level of their better model counterparts?

Seeing as price (in general) doesn't always dictate which is the better product, it would be impossible to generalize. You'd have to have some components in mind. $1500 isn't really enough for an excellent sounding 2-ch system. It could be done perhaps on the used market with specific components. But really how much difference is there between a $300 cdp and $500 cdp? I'm sure there are many $300 speaks that sound better (different) than $500 speaks. The way the question is posed; it's impossible to say for sure. You also have to take into account system synergy. There are no hard and fast rules especially when you are only looking at price.

H9

bikezappa · February 2006

I se your point, lets change it then.

Question on a hypothetical situation here, how many here believe that if you have say a $5000 budget for a system, that if you get say a $1000 dollar cd player, $1000 integrated, $1000 speakers, $1000 interconnect, and $1000 speaker wires, that it will sound better than a system with a $1600 cd player, $1600 integrated amp and $1600 speakers with real cheap interconnects.

marker · February 2006

heiney9 wrote:

Seeing as price (in general) doesn't always dictate which is the better product, it would be impossible to generalize. You'd have to have some components in mind. $1500 isn't really enough for an excellent sounding 2-ch system. It could be done perhaps on the used market with specific components. But really how much difference is there between a $300 cdp and $500 cdp? I'm sure there are many $300 speaks that sound better (different) than $500 speaks. The way the question is posed; it's impossible to say for sure. You also have to take into account system synergy. There are no hard and fast rules especially when you are only looking at price.

H9

OK, then let's get specific model comparisions at roughly those same price points then.

Lets say a NAD 521 BEE or Cambridge Audio Azur 340C against a NAD C542 or CA 640C for cd players, NAD 320BEE or CA 340A integrated amps against a NAD C352 or CA 640C, and for speakers, Polk RTi4 or 6 against NHT SB3.

shack · February 2006

bikezappa wrote:

I se your point, lets change it then.

Question on a hypothetical situation here, how many here believe that if you have say a $5000 budget for a system, that if you get say a $1000 dollar cd player, $1000 integrated, $1000 speakers, $1000 interconnect, and $1000 speaker wires, that it will sound better than a system with a $1600 cd player, $1600 integrated amp and $1600 speakers with real cheap interconnects.

Maybe....maybe not...only real world listening will tell.

marker · February 2006

bikezappa wrote:

I se your point, lets change it then.

Question on a hypothetical situation here, how many here believe that if you have say a $5000 budget for a system, that if you get say a $1000 dollar cd player, $1000 integrated, $1000 speakers, $1000 interconnect, and $1000 speaker wires, that it will sound better than a system with a $1600 cd player, $1600 integrated amp and $1600 speakers with real cheap interconnects.

I personally don't. I think the second sytem would still sound better, but that's just me.

Then again, I'm from the school, of thought that if you have a $5000 budget for a system, that $4999 of that should go towards the speakers and the remaining greenback be split up among the cd player and integrated amp. Unfortunately, there just aren't too many 50 cent cd players and integrateds lining the store shelves these days!

Dennis Gardner · February 2006

$$$ doesn't dictate quality............have you heard Bose?

marker · February 2006

Dennis Gardner wrote:

$$$ doesn't dictate quality............have you heard Bose?

Or monster cable?

F1nut · February 2006

I think you should get the best source that you can afford, then the speakers, then the integrated and whatever wires you can afford with what's left over. Then, save a little more to buy better wires.

heiney9 · February 2006

Source.....speakers....amplification....cables, but really not too much different budget wise. It's a synergy package. Just like a great handeling sports car. It's not just one thing it's the sum of all the parts that makes it what it is. Same with audio, you can't single one specific thing out and spend a load of your budget on it and then skimp the rest of the way. Only way that works is if you are going to do it in stages as you have the funds.

H9

dorokusai · February 2006

Audio sucks.

mldennison · February 2006

wait, we are getting off topic here, back to the nude female car lifting discussion...

heiney9 · February 2006

Ok back on topic.......:D

ND13 · February 2006

That second girl.....................is those some sort of new floatation device for the fashion savvy???

dragon1952 · February 2006

That third feat is most impressive :eek:

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