other amps

2-tall
2-tall Posts: 98
edited March 2006 in Vintage Speakers
Hi, I have my Carver tfm24's (220 watts per channel) horizontaly bi amped to my 3.1tl's.The sound has greatly improved over using just one amp.My question is what other amps out there would give me a noticeable improvement at a reasonable price,or have I maxed out what the 3.1tl's are capable of?I have all audioquest diamond back ic'c and audioquest type 4 speaker cable.I am using a Denon reciever as my pre amp.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited February 2006
    2-tall wrote:
    Hi, I have my Carver tfm24's (220 watts per channel) horizontaly bi amped to my 3.1tl's.The sound has greatly improved over using just one amp.My question is what other amps out there would give me a noticeable improvement at a reasonable price,or have I maxed out what the 3.1tl's are capable of?I have all audioquest diamond back ic'c and audioquest type 4 speaker cable.I am using a Denon reciever as my pre amp.
    Thanks

    How do you bi-amp with a receiver? Do most receiver's have 2 sets of pre-outs? I didn't think they did. If yours don't, how are you accomplishing the bi-amping? An excellent dedicated pre-amp will make a world of difference. Are you using this for an HT application?

    H9
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  • 2-tall
    2-tall Posts: 98
    edited February 2006
    I am using a connector out of the back of the Denon to split the signal to both amps.I am using this setup for two channel and for HT.
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  • I-SIG
    I-SIG Posts: 2,243
    edited February 2006
    The difference in the bass and midrange when I went from Carver to Parasound was notablte. Your 3.1's have much potential remaining.

    Wes
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited February 2006
    ^3.1's vs. SRS's... bit of difference there. What Carvers were you bi-amping with?

    2-tall,
    Twin 24's are plenty for your 3.1's. I'd start by looking for a good pre-amp. I-SIG's AA DLC is a nice oldie (couple hundred $ on ebay, but remote required!) or maybe look for a tube pre.
    More later,
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  • 2-tall
    2-tall Posts: 98
    edited February 2006
    If my carvers are ok then what pre amp ,keeping in mind that I want two channel and HT,would you recomend?
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited February 2006
    New? Used? Budget?
    More later,
    Tour...
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited February 2006
    Carver is decent raw power, but I'd sell them before they go tango uniform, and then aren't worth anything.

    Lots of more 'current' (no pun intended) choices, that will run your SDA's to their true potential.
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  • 2-tall
    2-tall Posts: 98
    edited March 2006
    I have a budget of $1,000 to $1500.I was thinking of a different pre amp first then upgrade the carvers later.Thoughts?
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited March 2006
    Since you want HT capability... latest and greatest 7.1 or other?
    More later,
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  • 2-tall
    2-tall Posts: 98
    edited March 2006
    My Denon is a 5.1.I won't be adding any more speakers so is there any reason to go with 7.1?
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited March 2006
    Tough question to answer... More of a want vs. need thang. Room size and HT "friendliness" really determine the answer.

    Unless you have it in mind to go 7.1 in the near future (and it doesn't sound that way to me), I'd suggest looking for a nice, used Pre-Pro. You'll save a bunch for later.

    Used candidates would include B&K (brand I'm most familar with). Go here to see their last generation AVP line up.

    And there are the other brand names you see in the forum, e.g., Outlaw, Anthem. Hopefully others can/ will recommend specific models from these lines.

    Videogon.com and ebay would be among the places to look for them.
    More later,
    Tour...
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