Please Help!!

montreal
montreal Posts: 10
edited February 2006 in Speakers
i am looking to purchase polk M50's(floorstanding) with a polk CS1 center and a yamaha rx-v750 receiver. is this a good combination to add to what i already have which is 4 polk R15 surrounds and a polk PSW10 sub. I have been told the center channel is very important. should i go with a CS2? a CSi3? Whats the difference between a CS1 and a CSi3?
HELP!!
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited February 2006
    I would go with the CS2 purely based on timbre matching. The CSi3 are voiced to match the RTi series and you have the Monitor series. The CS1/2 are both voiced to match your M50 so I would go with the CS2, the better of the two.

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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited February 2006
    montreal wrote:
    i I have been told the center channel is very important. should i go with a CS2? a CSi3?
    That is correct, the center channel is going to be responsible for handling approx. 70% of the soundtrack in most cases.

    The reason timbre matched speakers are so important is that without them your sound stage would sound quite different as the sound moves from one speaker to the next. Depending on the speakers the effect can be very obvious and very distracting. The idea is to establish a system that is seamless as the soundfield moves around the room.
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited February 2006
    The only thing that I can add is....

    with Yamaha receivers being "known" as being on the BRIGHT side of the sound spectrum and some have/would say that the Monitor series tends to be on the bright side of things, too, you might want to consider getting a HK or Denon receiver to mellow things out a bit. Just an suggestion, nothing carved in stone.

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  • *Seby*-Polk-
    *Seby*-Polk- Posts: 375
    edited February 2006
    Hi Montreal !!!! Welcome to the forums !!!! :)

    I tell you: I have a Yamaha RX-V657, a pair of Polk Monitor 50 as mains, and in the next month i buy a CS1 or CS2 (not big difference between both) and maybe a pair of Monitor 30 for surrounds.

    For me, and a lot of people, this model of Yamaha sounds GREAT. The sound is more bright than others, it's true, but NO TOO MUCH BRIGHT ... dont confuse !!!!

    I like the sound a bit bright, and Yamaha give me this. My configuaration in 2 ch. direct stereo is: Treeble: 0 db - Bass: +2.0 db. and sounds great. If you don't like the sounds bright, try with Denon.... OR put in the Yamaha Treeble: -2.5 db and bass: 0 or 0.5 db, and sounds very natural.

    Befere buy this receiver I tried models of Denon and Pioneer. i feel the Yammie sounds better than other in Movies (especially for the DSP and YPAO configurations) and same quality as Denon in Music with adjusting the tone controls. Better than Pioneer.

    Try yourself. Listen all brands...and decide. ;) Bye
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    Main Towers: polkaudio® Monitor 50
    Wiring: NeoTecH KS1007 OFC High Definition Speaker Cable ( 2 x 2.64 mm² )
  • montreal
    montreal Posts: 10
    edited February 2006
    i am starting to get it. the cs2 is better than the cs1 for monitor 50's, right? i read somewhere that the woofers should be the same size between mains and center.....m50's its 5.25" and cs1 its 5.25". for the cs2 its 6.5". is this a problem?
    also.........is the difference between the m50's and the m60's worth the upgrade?
  • *Seby*-Polk-
    *Seby*-Polk- Posts: 375
    edited February 2006
    For me, sounds more clarity the Monitor 50 than monitor 60. I.M.H.O. ;)
    My current new system (step by step :D)

    A/V Receiver: YAMAHA RX-V657
    DVD Player: YAMAHA DVD-S657
    Main Towers: polkaudio® Monitor 50
    Wiring: NeoTecH KS1007 OFC High Definition Speaker Cable ( 2 x 2.64 mm² )
  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited February 2006
    I would go with the Monitor 60s personally... better than the 50s I think. The higher you go for mains, the better because:

    1. It avoids futures upgrades.
    2. It allows for better music listening in pure stereo.

    What's the price difference between the 60s and 50s?
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited February 2006
    i wouldn't buy the cs2 if you're using the monitor 50 or 60. Different size woofer/different crossover/different tonal characteristics.

    if you're using a sub, save your money. Get the 50's and the 1.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited February 2006
    Here is my new recommendation:

    - Go for the CS1 unless you end up with the Monitor 70s. If you go with 50, 60 - get CS1. If you go for 70 - get CS2.
    - Between the 50 and 60, I would no doubt go 60s. The 60s are crossed slightly lower and among 3 woofers. This means more bass (which Andrew (aarharvel) is addressing with a sub), more midrange solidity, and more details (the tweeter gets to push itself slightly lower). I would go 60s.

    Once again, how much (price) are you able to get the 50s vs the 60s?
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  • *Seby*-Polk-
    *Seby*-Polk- Posts: 375
    edited February 2006
    aaharvel wrote:
    i wouldn't buy the cs2 if you're using the monitor 50 or 60. Different size woofer/different crossover/different tonal characteristics.

    if you're using a sub, save your money. Get the 50's and the 1.
    Really ??? I suposse the sound quality is the same (grat) in two. But i consider CS1

    I agreed with you in ... Buy a Monitor 50 if you have a sub. The Monitor 60 has more punchy. like a "little" sub inside (The third driver).

    Bye
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    A/V Receiver: YAMAHA RX-V657
    DVD Player: YAMAHA DVD-S657
    Main Towers: polkaudio® Monitor 50
    Wiring: NeoTecH KS1007 OFC High Definition Speaker Cable ( 2 x 2.64 mm² )
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited February 2006
    yeah Joey's right. the t90/60's are still on sale for $350/pair somewhere yeah? Well... if you ask me that's got an "end thread" written all over it.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited February 2006
    aaharvel wrote:
    yeah Joey's right. the t90/60's are still on sale for $350/pair somewhere yeah? Well... if you ask me that's got an "end thread" written all over it.

    Done and done...

    If you were looking at Circuit city, you were probably looking at a $400 for the pair of 50s.

    Here is the link to Tweeter (free shipping or you could pick it up instore), the Monitor 60s for $375.

    http://www.tweeter.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1870386&cp=1124285.1124339.1124387&sublevel=2&parentPage=family

    Yup, thank us later. :)

    Enjoy! :D:D
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  • montreal
    montreal Posts: 10
    edited February 2006
    thank you guys.......great work

    monitor 50's, cs1, psw10(already have), 4 R15's(already have) as surrounds and a yamaha rx-v750.

    am i ok here or do i need a minor upgrade somewhere?
  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited February 2006
    No 60s? Come on.... squeeze them in! They're on sale!
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  • da5176
    da5176 Posts: 42
    edited February 2006
    Go with the 60s, they sound much better all the way around than the 50s. You can't beat the price either :D
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  • donedroolin
    donedroolin Posts: 225
    edited February 2006
    I would go with the the Cs1 would match your speakers better. If you do decide to go Cs2 I know where you can get one.
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited February 2006
    i'm not a fan of the MOnitor line at all, but for $350-400, Monitor 60's are just an outright steal. it would be absurd to spend $25 more for the Monitor 50, an inferior speaker.
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  • montreal
    montreal Posts: 10
    edited February 2006
    cs1 with the m60's is better than the cs2 for the m60's, right?
  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited February 2006
    CS1 for the M60/50.... CS2 for the M70. The reason for this is the size of the woofers, you want perfect timbre matching, or atleast as close to perfect as possible.

    GO WITH 60s!!!
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  • *Seby*-Polk-
    *Seby*-Polk- Posts: 375
    edited February 2006
    montreal wrote:
    cs1 with the m60's is better than the cs2 for the m60's, right?
    What is your opinion about PSW 10 ??? (You have it) ... Im think buy one in the next months. Tell me your review about this sub !!!!

    In the fight Monitor 50 vs Monitor 60, i think if you have a sub to complement Monitors 50..sounds great....maybe better than Monitor 60 with sub. IMHO. Bye
    My current new system (step by step :D)

    A/V Receiver: YAMAHA RX-V657
    DVD Player: YAMAHA DVD-S657
    Main Towers: polkaudio® Monitor 50
    Wiring: NeoTecH KS1007 OFC High Definition Speaker Cable ( 2 x 2.64 mm² )
  • montreal
    montreal Posts: 10
    edited February 2006
    What is your opinion about PSW 10 ??? (You have it) ... Im think buy one in the next months. Tell me your review about this sub !!!!

    In the fight Monitor 50 vs Monitor 60, i think if you have a sub to complement Monitors 50..sounds great....maybe better than Monitor 60 with sub. IMHO. Bye
    the psw10 does the job. I am happy with it. You cant beat the value for the price.

    monitor 50 and psw10 OR monitor 60 and psw10??
  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited February 2006
    Monitor 60 and PSW10 is better than Monitor 50 and PSW10.

    Why?

    At under 2.3khz, you get much more from the Monitor 60 as opposed to the Mon50.
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