CD Player & Sub Ideas To Be Shot Down
trees
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Thinking about buying a cd player & upgrading my subwoofer.
System: Polk Audio Lsi 9s, 7s, C, Dayton 10" sub, cheapo DVD player and NAD T773 receiver.
Room: The room is carpeted and drywall, 14x14x9, with windows on one wall, 2' door in one corner. Spent quite a bit of time trying to overcome the tyranny of a small room. Have absorptive material at points of first reflection, except ceiling, and acoustic panels on the rear wall, protecting the listener while still allowing the sofa to be near the rear wall. May someday move system to downstairs room, which is twice as long and a couple of feet wider.
50% Music/50% HT; don't play anything super loud and prefer the subwoofer to be extremely accurate but somewhat subtle for music. Movies are a different story, but still don't go much above 85 db.
OK, shoot at this:
Thinking about the Rotel 1072 cd player. Currently using a DIVO DVD player for music, but need to do better. It was rated 2nd to the Toshiba in the budget DVD player category and I'll keep it for playing movies.
Was thinking about a SVS PB10-ISD or a 2531-PCI to replace the Dayton.
Both the Rotel player and the subs are near the top of my price range. I'll put the Dayton on the flea market.
Thanks,
Trees
System: Polk Audio Lsi 9s, 7s, C, Dayton 10" sub, cheapo DVD player and NAD T773 receiver.
Room: The room is carpeted and drywall, 14x14x9, with windows on one wall, 2' door in one corner. Spent quite a bit of time trying to overcome the tyranny of a small room. Have absorptive material at points of first reflection, except ceiling, and acoustic panels on the rear wall, protecting the listener while still allowing the sofa to be near the rear wall. May someday move system to downstairs room, which is twice as long and a couple of feet wider.
50% Music/50% HT; don't play anything super loud and prefer the subwoofer to be extremely accurate but somewhat subtle for music. Movies are a different story, but still don't go much above 85 db.
OK, shoot at this:
Thinking about the Rotel 1072 cd player. Currently using a DIVO DVD player for music, but need to do better. It was rated 2nd to the Toshiba in the budget DVD player category and I'll keep it for playing movies.
Was thinking about a SVS PB10-ISD or a 2531-PCI to replace the Dayton.
Both the Rotel player and the subs are near the top of my price range. I'll put the Dayton on the flea market.
Thanks,
Trees
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Sounds like a plan, rock on!Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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You could do a lot worse than the Rotel and SVS. Good choices."Just because youre offended doesnt mean youre right." - Ricky Gervais
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Go for it!!!Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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The 1072 is one of the best values in audio today, in my opinion. SVS? Do they need any more props, really?
Good on ya for thinking at the TOP of your range.Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service. -
Thanks for the feedback.
I sent SVS an email regarding choosing between the PB10 and the 2531, given my room and listening habits. I'll also ask them about a post I saw talking about having them install a 22 HZ tune port on the 2531. I've got no clue what a 22 HZ tune port is.
When I first logged on to this group, I was trying to find info re R20s and an Onkyo 501. Jeez, I think I'll log off and find less expensive playmates. -
Perfect choices.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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No need to email SVS. We can tell ya that the 25-31 tuned to 22 Hz is your best bet. Go for it.HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50 LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub
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It is my understanding (although I have no experience) that a square room is a problem with sound. Any way of altering that? Just throwing out what little input I have...
madmaxVinyl, the final frontier...
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Max, you are right on target. Square small room = huge problem. It's taken me over a year to get a flat frequency response. This included acoustic panels, bass traps, moving speakers and sub around.
Finally at the point where the room is no longer the limiting factor. Which is why I'm just now looking at upgrading the cd player and sub. -
trees wrote:I'll also ask them about a post I saw talking about having them install a 22 HZ tune port on the 2531. I've got no clue what a 22 HZ tune port is.
Hey, sounds like a good plan as far as the upgrades...
Please dont take offense by me saying this, but if you dont know what a 22Hz tune port is then how do you know you want one and it is right for you?-Stopher
Tempe, AZ
Setup:
Polk RTi8 Mains
Polk CSi5 Center
Polk FXi3's Surround
Cerwin Vega HTS10 Subwoofer
Yamaha HTR-5740 AVR
Upstairs R50/R15/CS1 5.1 setup w Pioneer AVR -
he's taking good advise from early B.Living Room 2 Channel -
Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.
Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.
Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites -
Their sales dept., that is. They are actually trying to sell me what they think that I need rather than what will bring them the most $. Decided to plunge for the SVS PB10 and the Rotel 1072. I'm posting the response from SVS below.
And thanks all. Even you, Early B.
Thanks for your note and questions.
Glad to hear you listen at more sane levels. This makes things much easier .not to mention youve got a fairly small room to work with which as you know, can be a double edged sword. J I am a big proponent of acoustic treatments for your listening room, as I have experienced a night and day difference myself. But I have a feeling Im preaching to the choir here
Other than amplifier features separating the 25-31PCi and the PB10-ISD (PB10 does not have high level ins/outs or dedicated xover you would rely on your receiver to handle that), the main thing that separates the two is output. The 25-31PCi will go about 3dB louder than the PB10-ISD for all intents and purposes. When you buy a more expensive subwoofer, usually youre buying more output potential.
The PB10-ISD will dig a little deeper than the 25-31PCi, but it wont be that noticeable in your room. Running side by side at moderate levels, youd be very hard pressed to tell the two apart. Seriously. Its at their extreme operating limits is where their difference lies.
To be honest, I would suggest the PB10-ISD to you. Youll save a bit on dough, and still have wonderful performance. If for some reason it isnt loud enough for you, you can always pick up a second PB10 at a discount from us. The PB10 will also exhibit lower distortion at comparable output levels compared to the 25-31PCi, as the amplifiers compressor/limiter is a little more strict. For music playback, this is a good thing. J
Save yourself some cash, and pick up the PB10-ISD. Youve got 45 days to try it in your home, and to return it for a full refund (sans shipping). The best place to audition any piece of audio gear is in your own home, and with your own source material.
Please dont hesitate with any questions. Were always happy to help.
Regards,
Stephen
SVS