DVD Player Upgrade

kmartin971

I am looking for a solid DVD player. I have owned a Pioneer Elite for around five years and am looking to upgrade. MY 65" Mit accepts only component video for 1080i. Any one know if a solid DVD that upconcerts using a componet video out?

billbillw

Nope. Most of the decent or "solid" upscaling players only output the 1080i through the HDMI or DVI outputs. There was a mediocre Zenith model that was able to upconvert through component video, but only if you reverted it back to an older firmware. That said, you won't really see much improvement by upscaling anyway, especially if your TV is CRT based. Its probably not a good idea to upgrade for that reason alone.

PolkThug

Does the Mits have more than one native resolution?

kmartin971

Yes. It have seperate inputs for 480i, 480p, and 1080i. Looks like I will just have to buy a new TV!

PolkThug

Native resolution is what the TV actually displays. For instance, my Hitachi can display 540p or 1080i natively.

kmartin971

Link to the manual is in my signature.

PolkThug

I can't see your signature. What's your model number?

audiobliss

WS65611. It's under his first post. In case you can't see it there, here's the link:
HERE

PolkThug

Hard to say from the manual, could possibly be 480p and 1080i, get on a Mits Forum to find out for sure. If you are lucky to have native 480p then don't waste your time upscaling/"upconverting", get a DVD player with a good deinterlacer and output at 480p, you'll have a great picture. Go Denon.

Pablo

I actually searched and search for one of those a little while back to no avail. I even looked into a seperate up-converter, and nothing seemed that it would give "good" HD picture. Ended up going with the Denon 2910 (it upconverts via HDMI). But I do have to say, even without an upconvert, the picture is leaps and bounds over my old toshiba.

SKsolutions

The native resolution is the maximum pixels or picture elements. You cannot exceed this. 480p is DVD's native resolution. So, if you output DVD progressively (480p), your TV will scale it to fit your pixels (line doubling, scaling) You won't get a 1080 picture from a 480 source. Not even with a Faroudja scaler can you get orange juice from apples.
Get a true bit by bit progressive DVD player and plug it into the 480p input with good component cables.

Holydoc

kmartin971 wrote:

I am looking for a solid DVD player. I have owned a Pioneer Elite for around five years and am looking to upgrade. MY 65" Mit accepts only component video for 1080i. Any one know if a solid DVD that upconcerts using a componet video out?

Martin,

The Oppo player is adding the ability to upscale via Component video in March. If you are not in much of a hurry, I would highly recommend waiting and picking up this great player.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=643373

Willow

I know it's LG but I thought I saw an LG which claims to upconvert with component

okiepolkie

LGDVB418
On page 10 of the manual,

You can change the resolution (480i, 480p, 720p,
1080i) for the component/progressive scan video
output by pressing RESOLUTION on the front
panel.
• For 720p and 1080i resolution, only non-copy
protected discs can be played back. If the disc is
copy protected, it will be displayed at the 480p
resolution.
• HDMI mode must be set to OFF for Component
video connections.
• Progressive scan does not work with the analog
video connections (VIDEO OUT & S-VIDEO).

So yes, it will do upconversion through component video output, but the disc can't be copy protected.

Willow

okiepolkie wrote:

LGDVB418
On page 10 of the manual,


So yes, it will do upconversion through component video output, but the disc can't be copy protected.

Thanks OP. I knew I was dreaming when I saw that. So is a burnt or downloaded movie copy protected ?

okiepolkie

I'm not sure about those Willow? Maybe someone else might know that answer.

krabby5

Willow wrote:

Thanks OP. I knew I was dreaming when I saw that. So is a burnt or downloaded movie copy protected ?

if you burn a copy, you should have already bypassed the copy protection..or else it wouldn't have copied...

I think the real problem would be any kind of compression that was used when you copied the movie...if you only use single layer blank dvd's, chances are the movie would have some compression so it would fit onto the single layer disk...this would definately affect resolution...don't know how much..but

drew spelts

I have seen this before and basically it looks like it makes the movie older. Like it was shot to look older and I guess grainy and a little dimmer. Thats what I noticed but its not too terrible but you would not want all your movies to look like that.

Willow

Most of my burnt movies are full DVDs if need be I'd buy a dual layer dvd. Never have i noticed my copies dark or grainy

drew spelts

Sorry, need to be more specific..... This was a single layer DVD as mentioned above that came from a friend from a friend off the internet before the movie was released out on DVD.

peteran

Onkyo has the DV-sp1000 that has HD compnent outputs, but you are talking about$2000.00.
you can check it out here.

http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=DV-SP1000&class=DVD&p=i

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-FCqn6r3MAyV/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=54400&id=morephotos&pi=2&i=580DVSP1K&display=XL#Tab

kmartin971

As soon as Blu Ray comes out existing DVD player prices are going to drop like bricks! You can pick up a denon 2910 on ubid.com for $500.

louhamilton

There is always Neodigits as well.

http://www.neodigits.com/new/body/products/HVD2085/overview.asp

-Lou

peteran

Interesting Lou, I thought everybody stopped using upscaling through component video.

bknauss

Could wait for the HD-DVD players. I think there is the possibility of having 1080i component out. I saw that somewhere, but I think its under debate.

TheReaper

kmartin971 wrote:

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If you have a Windows MCE pc. $50 for software to get around DVD copy protection, $50 for the nVidia DVD Decoder, and $200+ of video card with video processing and component out. Along with an SPDIF audio output to passthru DD/DTS. Will get you an upscaling DVD player.

*Seby*-Polk-

Anybody knows the Yamaha S-2500 dvd player ???? It's good ???

bknauss

bknauss wrote:

Could wait for the HD-DVD players. I think there is the possibility of having 1080i component out. I saw that somewhere, but I think its under debate.

Just to follow up on my own post, Crutchfield claims no HD output over component on the upcoming Toshiba HD-DVD players.

On the other hand, I now do remember Samsung has some older models that you can put a remote code into and it will do upconverting over component. I believe its model # HD851. avsforum.com is the best source for that stuff.