svs

karpiel666

The reality hasent quite hit me yet, but im sure it will when i see a big box on my doorstep.

danger boy

have some smelling salts ready too...

which SVS did you get?


You're gonna luvvvv it!

wingnut4772

Yeah, don't be a tease.

mknutt

I am pretty certain that I too am about to jump on the SVS wagon. Just have to decide which one. I made some cardboard mockups yesterday :eek: . You all are not kidding when you say these things are huge.

fab5valentine

My PB12+/2 arrives as soon as tomorrow, may hold it up until Friday.. I hope to blend it in with the room decor.. Yea right! Well hoping.. Was thinkn' of a new sectional sofa, but look like this SVS will become the new corner unit.. Hey, just need a seat cusion and a back and wa'la.. There's an idea.. Just kidding.. Can't wait! Will send pics when all set-up.

-fab5

karpiel666

I got the best one I could afford pb12 isd/v, but the room is only 900 cubic feet so it should be quite nice. But if I fall in love with it ( who am I kidding I already love it ) im gonna start saving for a ultra/2 by mowing lawns etc. By the time i can get it I will weigh less that it.

Ron Temple

karpiel666 wrote:

I got the best one I could afford pb12 isd/v, but the room is only 900 cubic feet so it should be quite nice. But if I fall in love with it ( who am I kidding I already love it ) im gonna start saving for a ultra/2 by mowing lawns etc. By the time i can get it I will weigh less that it.

Better get some Bluetac and start nailing everything down. I did some test tones this weekend in a much bigger room, 2000 opening into another 5000, below 30hz everything wanted to come off the walls (20-39+).

Enjoy your toy.

karpiel666

The only things that could fall off are my DIY sound absorbing panels, oh and my kitchens back wall is the other side of the wall svs will be on, but my china was made in tiawan and the whole set cost me about 5$, im actually hoping to see some plate dropping action.

danger boy

your pb12 isd/v should do quite nicely in your room size.. do you have an SPL meter (sound pressure level)? it can make a big difference in proper speaker set up.

karpiel666

yes I have a decent spl meter, my current sub is lucky to hit 70db without distortion, so this should be a nice change. But one question about the shipping, my svs has gone from toledo to chicago, then back to toledo where it has sat for almost 24 hours and the guys at svs said it should be here today or tomorrow. Im getting worried. I just need to mow some lawns and find a pair of f/x1000 or f/x500i for sale and ill be set for a while.

Ron Temple

karpiel666 wrote:

yes I have a decent spl meter, my current sub is lucky to hit 70db without distortion, so this should be a nice change. But one question about the shipping, my svs has gone from toledo to chicago, then back to toledo where it has sat for almost 24 hours and the guys at svs said it should be here today or tomorrow. Im getting worried. I just need to mow some lawns and find a pair of f/x1000 or f/x500i for sale and ill be set for a while.

These are the numbers I got last weekend 20-39+, -10 on the receiver, calibrated at 75db, correction factors for the RS meter included. This was sub only crossover disabled. I have a slight null at the LP 10' away and a peak along one wall of 8db. I have a dip in the 40-50 range that needs a BFD. You should be getting very similar performance(room dependent).

160hz - 76db
142 - 78
125 - 78
111 - 90
100 - 91
89 - 94
80 - 88
71 - 94
63 - 95
56 - 95
50 - 87
45 - 88
40 - 97
36 - 104
31.5 - 105
28 - 106
25 - 106
22 - 105
20 - 104
18 - 102
16 - 96

doggie750

dont worry..........you'll know when you have it...........

COngRATz
YOu just joined the BREED...........

SKsolutions

I just don't see it from the design, and I don't see it from the numbers. Looks great for HT but slow and ponderous for music.

Someone convince me. I really can't afford it, but I could always eat those Raman noodle things and siphon gas out of the neighbors cars. Hmmm almost bike weather anyway. . . 45mpg. . . . . . taxes, schmaxes.

Ron Temple

SKsolutions wrote:

I just don't see it from the design, and I don't see it from the numbers. Looks great for HT but slow and ponderous for music.

Someone convince me. I really can't afford it, but I could always eat those Raman noodle things and siphon gas out of the neighbors cars. Hmmm almost bike weather anyway. . . 45mpg. . . . . . taxes, schmaxes.

Wait until you're ready, but in my case, the tube doesn't add anything to the source, it's very tight, maybe not as tight as gregure's Depth, but very nice, never boomy. When the source is loaded with LFE, watch out.

Ron Temple

SKsolutions wrote:

I just don't see it from the design, and I don't see it from the numbers. Looks great for HT but slow and ponderous for music.

Relating to those numbers, I'm getting resonance and room gain below 36hz which I've been told to cure with a 10-14db cut via BFD, along with a pump in the 40-50 range to flatten my response. I'm debating it because it doesn't sound bottom heavy, but I probably will. Numbers are always room dependent.

karpiel666

I get 96 db at 20hz in 20hz tune with receiver on -10. I dont know about correction values because i dont have the radiashack meter. at 20 I dont feel pressure, and not even my 40 year old loose pane windows rattle, but my couch moves a bit. I was hoping the windows would at least rattle a bit.

VR3

Awesome, congrats!

You only WISH your window rattled, once you found out it did you would quickly look for a way to STOP it...

karpiel666

yea thats true, there are some good things about a solid brick house.

kingsqueak

My window panes rattle in their frames if I get hamfisted with the 25-31PCi, pots and pans rattle in the dish rack in the kitchen, lampshades, collector plates two rooms away on racks.

Best one so far was Blade II last night. Cat comes slinking into the middle of the room just in time for a massive BOOM. The delay on the cat I figure was about spot on, she puffed up full size right on queue.

Err, you'll have a blast.

karpiel666

Do you happen to have wood floors?

kingsqueak

Yeah, not only that but the listening area is an elevated wooden platform basically over a half-basement. It's very efficient for low end it seems, I'm lucky. For low 90db range listening levels, the 25-31PCi is barely breathing to sound nice and smooth. I'm running a corner placement about 2' out square from the corner.

jma9

i just got my svs 20-39 pci. wow, this thing is huge. i read about how big these things are but didn't believe it until i tried to pull it out of the box. i have a VERY large family room (ceilings are 22 feet high and it is pretty much open to the rest of the house) and it still fills the room with sound and shakes the windows. the pod race seen in phantom menace is crazy (i remember seeing it in the theater and hearing the sub bottom out during that scene constantly). i am planning on moving my HT to a much smaller room soon so i am curious to see what it sounds like in there. svs definitely builds a nice sub for the price.

SKsolutions

Ron Temple wrote:

Relating to those numbers, I'm getting resonance and room gain below 36hz which I've been told to cure with a 10-14db cut via BFD, along with a pump in the 40-50 range to flatten my response. I'm debating it because it doesn't sound bottom heavy, but I probably will. Numbers are always room dependent.

I am close to believing, but when I am close to pulling the trigger on the SVS 20-39pci, I remember the smaller LSi drivers and think I'll need a quicker sub. By quicker read sealed. . . or possibly a high effieciency isobaric/push-pull ported design. Sealed won't go near the depth of the SVS without being the size of a frigerator and requiring boatloads of power, push-pull/bipolar designs will generate the impact energy for HT with higher speed/damping/loading, but lack the depth. Maybe if I can find a banged up Grotto?

Wow, I'm back to square one: Confused.

Ron, you seem to have spent some time in calibrating. Most of the gains and nulls you have are, as you've said, room induced. What I'm most interested in is how cohesive it can be, the speed and snap of it, and how linear it is. Can you really dig it on 2ch? . . .

Ron Temple

What do you have now...I mean that I can tell you the SVS is very tight, but I've got a Plus which is tighter, and I'm listening to a DD15 as we speak, which is tighter still. It's all relative. It's all about price points and delivery. There is nothing at $600 except DIY that equals the 20-39PCI as an all rounder, HT and music. That's a subjective opinion, it maybe better or worse for you.

My advice is to try the SVS, but EQ it with either a BFD or SMS 1. Linearity, flat response, snap and speed are products of an EQd sub. Out of the box the SVS is great, tamed, it's whatever you want.