tone controls

zombie boy 2000
zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
quick question --
i've read alot about setting the tone controls to neutral (makes sense, i'll experiment)
my HK 240 has the option of either setting the bass and treble to 0 (in stereo mode) or turning off the DSP all-together (again, in stereo), thus bypassing all tone control -- is there any difference?
thanks :p
fyi - i'm using analogs from the dvd player, but have a digital coax
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited January 2006
    Real stereos don't need no stinkin' tone controls.

    To answer your question, when bypassing all the tone controls, you get a cleaner signal.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited January 2006
    The HK probably isn't bypassing anything. Ruler flat is where you need to be, regardless. In the 'old' days, some manufacturers, Luxman for example, had a 'CD DIRECT' button, which actually did re-route the circuit - so it never hit the tone pots.

    They chose to call it 'cd direct', because that magic 5 inch disc was the latest tech with it's associated d/a converters - and it gave the end user the option to REALLY hear what (different) cd players were, or were not doing.

    Tone controls are a bandaid, on a bigger audio issue. They can be a crutch too. I've been there. I can remember running the bass hot, treble hot, loudness contour engaged AND a 10 band EQ in the prototypical 'V' through the tape monitor. I had to ween myself from it, even at a time where I didn't have decent equipment. I'm not proud of it, but I can relate.

    Now, on the Legacy Classics for example, I can't imagine having a loudness contour - I'd knock the sheetrock off the walls, the speakers would **** like Reeltrouble at a buffet, and my audio days would be DONE.

    Once you've got proper hifi, you soon forget about all those extra knobs, switches, and DSP modes. An old timer on these boards once told me 'The more bells and whistles, lights and buzzers, the worse the peice will sound'. Words to live and die by for audio.

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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited January 2006
    great info russman -- this is real good stuff
    F1 -- agree whole-heartedly
    the reason i mentioned that i have both analog and digital cables is because the HK can shut off it's DSP when analogs are used, but not with digital cables
    in other words, when in stereo mode w/ analogs -- i can set the bass and treble to 0 (flat) or i can turn off the tone controls all-together by turning off the dsp
    is there a difference?
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited January 2006
    i can set the bass and treble to 0 (flat) or i can turn off the tone controls all-together by turning off the dsp
    is there a difference?


    Can you hear a difference?
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited January 2006
    Or better yet, can he provide a graph proving he can hear a difference, right?
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