Flea Market Rant
RuSsMaN
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Look, I'm tired of the cluster F the Flea Market has turned into.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE use it to JUST post items YOU have for sale, or wanted posts for gear YOU are looking for.
We can all search ebay and audiogon for SDA, Monitors, Etc. If you choose not to use the 'sticky' thread (which was made to help resolve this very problem), then post it elsewhere, perhaps in the VINTAGE SPEAKERS forum.
It's fine and dandy if you want to alert people to something someone else has for sale. It's a great way to help other members find that deal they have been looking for, and may not have noticed, or just popped up, etc. Keep it out of OUR Flea Market.
"Hey, check out these RT55's for sale (link atttached)" - turns into a 40 reply discussion of how stupid the seller is, how good a deal it is, or more often than not about the finer points of the speaker offered for sale. GREAT thread for the VINTAGE SPEAKERS FORUM.
If you are bidding on something, and want to alert others to it - POST IT IN VINTAGE SPEAKERS.
I'm not attacking anyone, or their opinions, or what they posted - I just think it's sad that a member can offer up a GREAT item, and not 5 hours later it's BURIED under threads containing links, and nothing to do with the FM. He/she shouldn't have to bump their thread 15 times over 3 days, to get the item noticed.
Lets all work together, and get the flea market tightened back up, and use it for what it was intended to be used for. The buying / selling / trading of FORUM members gear.
Cheers,
Russ
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE use it to JUST post items YOU have for sale, or wanted posts for gear YOU are looking for.
We can all search ebay and audiogon for SDA, Monitors, Etc. If you choose not to use the 'sticky' thread (which was made to help resolve this very problem), then post it elsewhere, perhaps in the VINTAGE SPEAKERS forum.
It's fine and dandy if you want to alert people to something someone else has for sale. It's a great way to help other members find that deal they have been looking for, and may not have noticed, or just popped up, etc. Keep it out of OUR Flea Market.
"Hey, check out these RT55's for sale (link atttached)" - turns into a 40 reply discussion of how stupid the seller is, how good a deal it is, or more often than not about the finer points of the speaker offered for sale. GREAT thread for the VINTAGE SPEAKERS FORUM.
If you are bidding on something, and want to alert others to it - POST IT IN VINTAGE SPEAKERS.
I'm not attacking anyone, or their opinions, or what they posted - I just think it's sad that a member can offer up a GREAT item, and not 5 hours later it's BURIED under threads containing links, and nothing to do with the FM. He/she shouldn't have to bump their thread 15 times over 3 days, to get the item noticed.
Lets all work together, and get the flea market tightened back up, and use it for what it was intended to be used for. The buying / selling / trading of FORUM members gear.
Cheers,
Russ
Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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I agree...
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Definitely Good point.
While I'm a this....why not share this (I promise this is my last one).
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Russ, that makes a lot of sense. The Flea market should be for those wares members are selling amongst each other, not for links to other sellers stuff. Those types of links and discussion should go elsewhere. I'd say if it's Vintage speaker related put the link and discussion in that forum, if it's other electronic stuff put the link and related discussion in the Electronics forum. Makes perfect sense as the FM is for member to member sales. I'm guilty occasionally of posting links to other sales and I will now post in the appropriate forum. Let's all try to do the same. That way the FM will be less cluttered with crap.
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HTrookie wrote:Definitely Good point.
While I'm a this....why not share this (I promise this is my last one).
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?preatube&1142090954
WTF htrookie, you agree then post exactly what he bitching about?Dodd - Battery Preamp
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Perhaps ask the forum owner/moderators to add a subforum for links to others gear? Would that make everyone happy?
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We made a sticky thread for SDA, and people don't use it. All they have to do is post SOMEWHERE other than our FM.Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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hoosier21 wrote:WTF htrookie, you agree then post exactly what he bitching about?
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I have found several items from the "hey, have any of you guys seen this on ebay" sort of posts. Besides, nobody cares if you bump an ad if it gets buried quickly. I like our flea market and how it works.
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I've felt this way for a long time and agree with Russ. I'm surprised nobody said anything earlier.
This should also apply to postings of various "hot deals" that can be found at online or retail stores. I'm sure most of us have heard of Slickdeals.net and Fatwallet.com by now. If there is something that really garners attention here, it should go in the speakers or electronics forum.For rig details, see my profile. Nothing here anymore... -
You & I are on the same wave length Sami.
I think a subforum should be created for these kinds of thread & if someone forgets we can POLITELY ask them to post it in the: For Sale By Other Outlets.
How bout it Justin?Sami wrote:Perhaps ask the forum owner/moderators to add a subforum for links to others gear? Would that make everyone happy?Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
cfrizz wrote:You & I are on the same wave length Sami.
I think a subforum should be created for these kinds of thread & if someone forgets we can POLITELY ask them to post it in the: For Sale By Other Outlets.
How bout it Justin?
This is a good idea. Another area just for people who come across good deals and want to let us know.
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But is it for sale & where???spasticpitbull wrote:I like Cheese WizMarantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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cfrizz wrote:But is it for sale & where???
Not yet..I gotta leave it out for a week and let some mold grow that will maybe look like the Virgin Mary and then ebay it and then maybe goldenpalace.com will make me RICHLife without music would♭ -
HTrookie wrote:Take it easy man.....it's a joke....
it's coolDodd - Battery Preamp
Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
Outlaw ICBM - crossover
Beringher BFD - sub eq
Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..." -
I'm guilty of this pretty regularly, never realized anyone had heartache about pointing folks in a GOOD direction, however, the links could be posted in the regular speaker, 2-channel, electronics, etc, etc, threads. Ok, I'm on-board...
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Yeah, lets make a subforum for links to stuff for sale from people that dont give a rats **** about Club Polk. Great idea. Afterall, they deserve their own forum. Lets give them two while we are at it.
Gotta love Polkies, lets tweek and overthink everything, and here goes another thread into multiple pages, full of everyones idea on the topic, vs just simply using it for what it was originally intended for.
Me? I'll go back to not giving a **** anymore. Matter of fact, lets jack it up even more! Let me go find some links to post.Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service. -
I don't see the issue with people posting good deals from other on-line sites in the Flea Market because it's the logical place to put such things. I'd be all for a sub-forum, but if one doesn't come about I would say it's a bit ridiculous to ban all such threads from the FM. I bought some stuff from those deal threads and they serve their intended purpose. You can tell who is just trying to make a buck, and they get weeded out pretty fast.
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RuSsMaN wrote:Me? I'll go back to not giving a **** anymore. Matter of fact, lets jack it up even more! Let me go find some links to post.
Classic case. This is caused by the let down you experience after hugging on the young cuties at trade shows...
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why not just put it in its appropriate slot. find a good deal on an amp, put it in electronics or 2 channel. Speakers? hey, how about putting it in the speaker forum? I'll admit that when the links to other sales is few, I dont care. But I have missed some cool stuff because it is burried by multiple "look at this deal" posts.
its not rocket science I dont think another forum topic is neccesaryLiving Room 2 Channel -
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ohskigod wrote:why not just put it in its appropriate slot. find a good deal on an amp, put it in electronics or 2 channel. Speakers? hey, how about putting it in the speaker forum?
Ed Zachary. I agree with Russman that we should reserve the FM for "polkie deals."Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2 -
I don't really think that another forum topic is necessary either. But I also don't mind the posts in the Flea Market either, since it is stuff for sale & someone here might be interested in it. I'd rather it there, than scattered all over the board in every forum.
I was simply trying to find a way to compromise so that almost everyone can be happy.
There are some who are never going to be happy no matter what is done but that is their problem not the entire boards.ohskigod wrote:why not just put it in its appropriate slot. find a good deal on an amp, put it in electronics or 2 channel. Speakers? hey, how about putting it in the speaker forum? I'll admit that when the links to other sales is few, I dont care. But I have missed some cool stuff because it is burried by multiple "look at this deal" posts.
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I don't really care too much about it, but a subforum would help clean up the flea market, and allow OUR sales to stay on that front page longer, thus giving them more exposure.
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John,
You're starting to creep me out man. Get out there and find yourself a stud muffin!
Russ,
I agree with you. I try to avoid the FM section for the sake of my bank account but when I do venture into it I sometimes see quite a bit of stuff that shouldn't be there.
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Russ,
I agree some of the things should be elsewhere on this site. I have been guilty of this on occasion but usually to let someone know about Polk gear. Noted.
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Just my $0.02, but I like the forum as is. I've gotten some good deals from folks posting things they've found elsewhere (the MonsterPower 3500II most recently).
As far as the suggestion to put the posts in their appropriate forums (electronics, vintage, etc.), probably not a good idea. That would litter the entire forum with buy/sell/deal threads, since people (especially newbies) would not know where to post them. At least now those kinds of posts are somewhat consolidated.
I don't think there's any need to turn this forum into any more of an oldtimer police state than it has already become...