Bipole Surround placement... corners or in more?

StopherJJ1980
StopherJJ1980 Posts: 267
edited January 2006 in Speakers
Man Im askin a lot of questions today :) Hope Im not gettin too annoying. OK so my FXi3's should be here any day now. My HT is set up in my living room. My surrounds are going to go on the back wall a few feet above my head because that is just the most convenient place to wall mount them.

Should I put these speakers directly in the corners or move them in a foot or two towards the middle and give them a little more 'room' to bounce sound around a bit? Or does it not matter where the reflection points are?
-Stopher
Tempe, AZ

Setup:
Polk RTi8 Mains
Polk CSi5 Center
Polk FXi3's Surround
Cerwin Vega HTS10 Subwoofer
Yamaha HTR-5740 AVR

Upstairs R50/R15/CS1 5.1 setup w Pioneer AVR
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited January 2006
    I have seen 5.1 placement with the surrounds directly to the sides of the sweet spot with the null of the dipole lined up with the ear and have I seen diagrams recommended for 5.1 with the surrounds behind the listener in the corners angled toward the sweet spot. I am not sure how that would work with dipoles though. Get a couple of ladders out and try both. See which you prefer for your room. I heve them to the sides but I have a 7.1 set up. If you have no choice but to put them on the back wall...my guess would be corners but you have to experiment.
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  • Larry Chanin
    Larry Chanin Posts: 601
    edited January 2006
    I have seen 5.1 placement with the surrounds directly to the sides of the sweet spot with the null of the dipole lined up with the ear and have I seen diagrams recommended for 5.1 with the surrounds behind the listener in the corners angled toward the sweet spot. I am not sure how that would work with dipoles though. Get a couple of ladders out and try both. See which you prefer for your room. I heve them to the sides but I have a 7.1 set up. If you have no choice but to put them on the back wall...my guess would be corners but you have to experiment.

    Hi Darla,

    Based on the title of Stopher's posting and Polk's advice regarding their Bipole-Dipole speakers, it would appear that Stopher intends to set his FXi3's to bipole mode.

    I've got my surround back LC265i's speakers in the corners, but they have a special distance switch that adjusts the crossover to flatten response and tune out “boominess” caused by being closer that two feet to the walls. My guess is that since his speakers don't have this adjustment, he would want to get a few feet off the wall.

    Larry
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited January 2006
    Oh I see that now ....
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • StopherJJ1980
    StopherJJ1980 Posts: 267
    edited January 2006
    Yeah theyll be wall mounted bipole-mode in back... Thanks for the input.
    -Stopher
    Tempe, AZ

    Setup:
    Polk RTi8 Mains
    Polk CSi5 Center
    Polk FXi3's Surround
    Cerwin Vega HTS10 Subwoofer
    Yamaha HTR-5740 AVR

    Upstairs R50/R15/CS1 5.1 setup w Pioneer AVR
  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited January 2006
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited January 2006
    try playing something back in surround sound that you're familiar with (for me it's the Ark scene at the end of Raiders). Sit in your normal listening position and listen to each surround speaker individually both in dipole and bipole mode. (Turn off the Stereo pair and center when doing this)

    Dipole doesn't necessarily sound better on side walls and bipole doesn't necessarily sound better from behind. My room layout is a fubared corner setup and i have the both rear surrounds set to bipole: the side left surround set to bipole & the side right set to DIpole. You never know...
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited January 2006
    I'd not have thought of that Andrew. How does it sound? I would think I'd get confused trying to map the phase relativity, but if it works that would be a rather niffty solution to some room limitations. Do you have a drawing or map of your placement?
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