What model SDA1 is this??

vanman
vanman Posts: 21
edited January 2006 in Vintage Speakers
Hi all,

Got someone selling this SDA1 but the info is the picture :( Anyone can identify what is this?

New info from seller:

Polk Audio, SDA1 with 4 mid, 2 tweeter and 1 radiator standing at around 4 feet tall. It has a 91db and 8ohm.

Thanks in advance

Daniel
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  • jtgranby
    jtgranby Posts: 887
    edited January 2006
    Looks like SDA 1c. Need to see it naked.
    JT
  • vanman
    vanman Posts: 21
    edited January 2006
    Appreciate if anyone who knows the specs for this speaker to post it here.

    Thanks in advance.

    I love my RTA11T still havent got the heart to change the tweeters though its going to cost me about US$210 including shipping to get the tweeters. For that amount, I could topup a bit more and get the SDA1 thats on sale for about US$388. Is that a fair price for the SDA1?
  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited January 2006
    The SDA1a, SDA1b, and SDA1c all used the SL2000 tweeter, which you'd have to change out anyway if you were already planning on doing it in your RTAs. And there's 2 per speaker cabinet...

    But it is going to be a big jump in sound from your RTA11T's. The SDA effect is interesting. I don't like it on everything, but overall it's quite enjoyable.
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  • vanman
    vanman Posts: 21
    edited January 2006
    Hi Nadams,

    Yes I did see from searching the forum that SDAs uses SL2000 tweeters, hope to be able to audition them. I see that the SDA1B are 4ohms are the SDA1C 4ohms or 8ohms. The seller mentioned that they are 8ohms, thats why I'm checking with the forum.

    Daniel
  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited January 2006
    If it is the 1C try this link:

    http://www.polksda.com/sda1c.shtml
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited January 2006
    Those are, without a doubt SDA 1C's. The 1A and 1B cabinets were very different. The actual specs are 6 ohm nominal and 89.5dB. They are far better speakers than the RTA 11T's and the $388.00 price is a steal. Buy them tomorrow!!!

    As for getting the new RD0194-1 tweeters, mention that you are a club member and the cost will be $48.00 each. Are you overseas?
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  • vanman
    vanman Posts: 21
    edited January 2006
    Yah, I'm in Singapore. Was in Idaho for school miss the snow and weather totally. The thing that drove up the price is the shipping. So if I do get the SDA1Cs I'll order for all of them :)

    Thanks for your confirmation.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited January 2006
    Eh, you can have the snow!

    You're in for a treat, enjoy.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited January 2006
    I forgot to mention, if the seller dosen't have the owners manual, ask Polk to send you one. It's important that you not use mono block or non-common ground amps unless you use the special AI-1 interconnect cable.
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  • vanman
    vanman Posts: 21
    edited January 2006
    Can always count on you for good sound advice... :) I have a Phase Linear 400 power and Phase Linear 4000 pre, will this do? Don't have the mula $$ for mono blocks :)

    Care to explain this non-common ground amps you mentioned.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited January 2006
    As for power I think you'll be ok. I don't know if your amp is common ground or not. Do you have a VOM?

    Non-common ground means that the left and right channels in the amp do not share a common ground, like mono blocks but in the same chassis. Also called dual mono. Most amps are common ground, but it's better to be safe than sorry.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited January 2006
    If I might add, I owned 2 pairs of 11t's,now sold and replaced with 1c's,BIG difference,,get 'em :)
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  • vanman
    vanman Posts: 21
    edited January 2006
    If I might add, I owned 2 pairs of 11t's,now sold and replaced with 1c's,BIG difference,,get 'em :)

    I'll be going to view them at the seller's home, he's giving up these babies for his new baby (human) :) So sad for him but happy for me hehe can u see my :D He's got the interconnect as well. Serial no is L SDA1 10233.

    He's got a Mcintosh MC2100 power for sale and will let me listen with them together. Asking for both at US$1,125.25 what do u think? worth getting or should I just go with the SDA1Cs and pair them with my Phase Linear 200wpc power amp. Saw that the MC2100 are only 105wpc. Anyone can advise which will be better for the SDA1c Phase Linear 400 power with Phase Linear 4000 pre, or the Mcintosh MC2100. Dang he's also got the Mcintosh pre... there goes my savings lol, but think its going to be worth every cent :)

    Thanks all for your advise... I'm so excited... probably can't sleep tonight lol

    Daniel
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited January 2006
    Get the Mac, too!!!

    1Cs usually go in the $600-700 range, so for $1125 for them and the Mac is a no brainer, imo.

    Of course everything is relative. If they aren't in good shape, the pricing may not be all that great, but if............... ;):)
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited January 2006
    ND13 wrote:
    Get the Mac, too!!!

    1Cs usually go in the $600-700 range, so for $1125 for them and the Mac is a no brainer, imo.

    Of course everything is relative. If they aren't in good shape, the pricing may not be all that great, but if............... ;):)
    Actually $650 is the high side for a mint pair of 1Cs. He can get them for $388 which IS a good price. He gets the 1Cs at that price with or without the Mac. He needs to determine if the Mac is worth $787 or not. A quick search seems to indicate some have changed hands in the $500-$650 range and $787 is on the upper end of the price range. It would have to be mint to get that price IMO. A couple of restored MC2100s from a very reputable seller are going for $800 and $875 for good and near mint (with 1 year warranties). See link below:

    http://www.mcintoshaudio.com/
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited January 2006
    You need to consider he's in Singapore...not sure what prices can you find there and if there is a lot of offers...
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited January 2006
    I don't know...seems to me that folks are getting $600-650 for 1C's around here.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited January 2006
    +1 :)
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,197
    edited January 2006
    I'm kinda suprised your Phase Linear is still running. Certain models (can't remember exactly) had some real problems early on. Has it ever been rebuilt that you know of? Phase Linear was Bob Carver's first company if I remember my history. The Mac would be nice, but if the PL is still performing as it should the Mac may not be worth the extra $$$. The 1C's are a no brainer <jealous> ;) .

    H9
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,197
    edited January 2006
    P.s. I'd also check to make sure, if you don't have the A1 cable, the Phase Linear is a common ground amp. Something older like that, especially a Bob Carver design, could be a dual-mono w/non-common ground. Always better to be safe than sorry.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • vanman
    vanman Posts: 21
    edited January 2006
    Thanks so much you'all, you've all been so helpful.

    I got a silly question, what is a Common Ground, and how do I tell if my PL (Phase Linear) has it. It only has one transformer to the left of the amp, does that mean its a common ground? I can't even find a GND outlet on the PL 400 but on the pre 4000, there's one. What do you suggest I look for. :(

    Was so excited about the 1Cs that I can't sleep, too exicted :D Now where in the world am I going to put them... Have to move furniture again lol. but think it will be worth it.

    Any links to help me check the 1Cs and Mcintoshes appreciate it :)

    Daniel

    PS: Phase Linears are working fine, I think they may have been reworked, coz the wires inside them looks not factory type (not clean and neat, quite messy with resistors, and caps all over and big fat wires from spk out to somewhere). The other PL that I have PL 200 amp looks whole lot cleaner / neater inside. Anyway, I'll told the seller I'll have a listen, and will take your advise on the prices of both 1Cs and the Mc.
  • vanman
    vanman Posts: 21
    edited January 2006
    shack wrote:
    Actually $650 is the high side for a mint pair of 1Cs. He can get them for $388 which IS a good price. He gets the 1Cs at that price with or without the Mac. He needs to determine if the Mac is worth $787 or not. A quick search seems to indicate some have changed hands in the $500-$650 range and $787 is on the upper end of the price range. It would have to be mint to get that price IMO. A couple of restored MC2100s from a very reputable seller are going for $800 and $875 for good and near mint (with 1 year warranties). See link below:

    http://www.mcintoshaudio.com/


    The Polk 1Cs are going to be Buy it Now at US$486 according to seller, its very well taken care of, with manual, and interconnect cables. He is willing to sell me the 1Cs and Mcintosh MC2100 for US$1,125.25 so the MC's are US$639.25. If its working well as he says, then I think its a good buy. His dad bought it as a set so 1st owner till now.

    Daniel
  • vanman
    vanman Posts: 21
    edited January 2006
    Hi all,

    Just an update, I got the 1Cs, they are in quite a good condition, though its been in a smoking environment, the side panels have come unglued at 2 corners and a chip on the front top corner of the left spk. Other than those outward appearences, I felt I walked away with a great pair of speakers for US$485. A bit on the high side, but it beats getting one from EBAY and shipping to SG.

    The Mcs looked a bit run down esp the metal housing was very rusted, he even had a C28 pre I think but the front had lots of moisture damage. Anyway, when I hooked to the Phase Linears they sounded much better than his Mcs. Wierd huh.

    Listened to music after cleaning the babies up. What do you guys use to clean the speaker's wood and speaker cones (after removing the grille). Will post some pics later.

    Again thanks for the many feedback and advise I received.

    Daniel
    Daniel
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited January 2006
    Congrats!

    To clean the wood a damp cotton cloth works well. To clean the drivers, spray a soft cotton cloth with Windex, wipe in a circlular motion. To remove odors in the cloth, spray Febreze. To clean and remove odors in the cloth, spray on Resolve fabric cleaner.

    You were smart to pass on the Mac's.
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