The Version 2 BP10B Rebuild - The Final Stretch

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,822
    edited January 2006
    I may - I am just not looking forward to taking everything apart again -

    The only reason why I did the clear coat before was the spray on a dull grey color...

    The roll on is a jet black color and shiney - exactly what the spray on + clear coat looked like...

    I am listening to all my CDs again - its hard to point out improvements - particularly in my room, some songs will sound great - others will leave you going eh...

    Its hard to say..

    BUT - I really like the sound of the mirror imaged speakers - it seems things are much more balanced...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,822
    edited January 2006
    Ok, after listening to a few songs I am very familiar with as far as soundstaging goes -

    Im going to have to say that the width is the same, the depth seems similar - that is still way up in the air for me - but my room sucks for that no how...

    The biggest differences are the very small things - like I am noticing a few things in the songs I didnt hear before, its just a "cleaner" sound I guess thats the best way to put it...

    Will get yall some pics of the finished product in the next few days - still undecided about clear coating the entire enclosure though, will have to see what a gloss cedar panel on a non-clear gloss truck bed liner looks, if it looks weird - I may have to just gloss the whole thing...

    OH WELL, I'm in no hurry - there was only so much more of my center + sub I could take before I was about to crack into little itty bitty pieces..

    Your center plugged up to just the right channel is NOT a good idea... trust me! ;)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • michael_w
    michael_w Posts: 2,813
    edited January 2006
    Nice to see the last bit of work get done and have things work out well.

    Do you have any pics of the finish up close? I'm curious because I have a pair of mini voigt pipes I'm working on as well that don't have any finish set out for them yet so I'm open to new ideas.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,822
    edited January 2006
    I tell ya...

    the truck bed liner finish looks like... well - a truck bed - just a bit glossier than normal...

    I used the plasticoat (sp) from Walmart, the 1 gallon (40 dollars US) roll on

    Here is a close up pic...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • michael_w
    michael_w Posts: 2,813
    edited January 2006
    Fancy. I'll have to keep that in mind when I go to finish mine. Thanks.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,822
    edited January 2006
    woo - even more pictures!!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited January 2006
    Great craftmanship, Sid! congrats.
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,822
    edited January 2006
    Thanks!

    My website is finally updated with all this stuff.. lol

    I decided to clear coat the whole enclosure - for a few reasons

    1) It'll match the side panels with the clear coat
    2) It'll seal the "grit" in the truck bed liner and it wont flake off...

    I plan to do about 4 coats of clear coat on everything - may be a week or so before I am done I guess...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,822
    edited January 2006
    One side panel on! - well - "attached" it wont be on till tommorow this time...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,822
    edited January 2006
    Last picture to be posted in this thread...

    But here is the panel attached permanently, just one - but its at an angle where you wouldnt have seen the other one no how..
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Schris22
    Schris22 Posts: 983
    edited January 2006
    sexy....

    Chris
    Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR502-S
    DVD Player: Pioneer DV-578A-S
    Left and Right: R50
    Center: CS1
    Rear Center: R15
    Surrounds: R30
    Subwoofer: 10'' Dayton 100 Watt
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,822
    edited January 2006
    Thanks

    Unfortunately I came home today to find that the panel did not stay.... :(

    So, I am re-gluing it and putting it back under the clamps! *grrr*

    So I guess I will have to put some screws into it... yuck... gonna have to plug some holes now..eff
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • burdette
    burdette Posts: 1,194
    edited January 2006
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:
    Thanks

    Unfortunately I came home today to find that the panel did not stay.... :(

    Did you sand down the bed liner? You could be having two problems - insufficient contact between the bumpy cabinet and the wood, and, the glue unable to bond to the liner. Isn't one of the points of bed liner to protect the bed from 'stuff' like solvents and dings and such? Regluing isn't going to work any better than gluing the first time if the liner is impervious to the glue.

    In hindsight, you probably should have masked off the areas where the panels will be. Now, you could possibly take a belt sander to those areas. Otherwise, as you said, sounds like it is time for screws.
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  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited January 2006
    Hey Sid.... your speakers match my truck bed liner. Impressive work.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited January 2006
    Screws are OK. With a little bit of ingenuity, the screws can enhance the look of the speaker and appear as though you planned it. Use hex screws or something other than regular wood screws for a nicer presentation.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,822
    edited January 2006
    I scraped off all the "grit"...

    As for the glue not holding? I dont think thats it as part of the panel actually did hold.... - I think the piece was slightly bowed and it just broke free from pressure against the way it was wanting to go... I think six screws (3 on each side - top, middle, bottom) around each corner would be a sure fire way to hold it...

    As for the screws, I plan on counter-sinking them and plugging the holes with cedar plugs... - probally will use 1" sheat rock screws to hold em in there...

    The only reason I am regluing it - is I want them to be bonded to the thing, the screws will just keep them from moving... - but the bad part about all of this is the fact I will have to wait a few more days until I can move on with more panels... :(

    Thanks for the comments/suggestions! :)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited January 2006
    bedliner is beautiful stuff... i built an outdoor subwoofer cabinet (outdoor coffee table with a sub in the bottom) -- did the bottom of it with 3 coats of bedliner then one of flat black and one of clear... hit the top with bed liner then rustoleum "craft paint" - that stone accept lookin stuff.... then more clear then i've ever seen in my life. came out allright.... certainly waterproof.
    The Artist formerly known as PoweredByDodge
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,822
    edited January 2006
    Ok...

    So I lied...

    This is the last pic in this thread...

    Im going to start a new thread when Im done-done...

    This is with 3 panels (side, front, top) cleared - the back, other side needs to be cleared. The truck bed liner got 3 coats and I plan to add a fourth coat to the panels later on...

    And yes, I used 6 total screws on each panel to keep it on... can you see them??? ;)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited January 2006
    excellent work there Sid
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,822
    edited January 2006
    Thank you sir!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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